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Old 01-30-2017, 08:52 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Illegal aliens cost us $113 billion a year and the wall will be around $25 billon so it's cost effective. That will actually decrease our budget.
Citation please.

Or did you pull that out of thin air?
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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Citation please.

Or did you pull that out of thin air?

I never pull things out of thin air so no need for the snarkiness.


Illegal Immigration a $113 Billion a Year Drain on U.S. Taxpayers
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:37 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Your source is far from non partisan.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:56 PM
 
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So in other words, what you're saying is you want open borders. Because if a wall won't work, we might as well tear down the entire fence that we have up right now and just allow people to freely enter the country. Which leads to the question, how would we be able to support that?
The majority of illegal aliens, like the majority of drugs, arrive through a border checkpoint. A wall is stupid idea and you should feel bad for thinking otherwise.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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President snowflake? Is that really necessary?
Nah. But it IS apt.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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Your source is far from non partisan.

They didn't just put the figures together themselves. They researched the issue through viable sources. They even included what taxes that illegals contribute.


What sources can you provide from non-biased ones that don't have a vested interest in illegal immigration?
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:03 PM
 
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The vast majority of illegals come into our country on an airplane with a Visa. They overstay the Visa.!
I believe this to be a damned lie. The vast majority of illegals are from Mexico and other South of the Border countries, and they did not come over here on an airplane! Moreover, immigrants from other countries are generally the top 1% of that particular country citizens, which means they are usually contributing in some meaning for way. They are either Engineers, doctors, or some other high-tech position. They are bringing value to the country, or at the very least are not joining/gangs, or bringing property values and neighborhood aesthetics down with trash and junk. Unfortunately, many of the illegals from Mexico and other South of the Border countries are the ones who could not or did not make it in their home country, generally the undereducated or those with few technical skills. That's why it's hard to compare immigration from other parts of the world to the immigration we experience from South of the Border. Everyone knows this, but political correctness has crippled us to such a degree that no one feels comfortable saying it. They would rather keep their mouth closed and allow our wages to be depressed and our children's futures to be compromised.
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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Calling bull on the most illegal aliens come in from Canada.

Canadians are responsible for the most 'visa overstays' but represent a very small portion of the illegals in the USA.
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Calling bull on the most illegal aliens come in from Canada.

Canadians are responsible for the most 'visa overstays' but represent a very small portion of the illegals in the USA.
Overstaying visa's stats show that these people were caught, and I would assume sent back. In other words, those stats may not truly show how many illegals actually don't get caught and stay. That said, it does stand to reason that the country with the most visa overstayers, may have the most. However, those using EU passports have higher numbers.

Canada and the US, because of geography are of course going to have a lot of people abusing both. The biggest group of illegals in Canada caught working illegally for instance, are Americans.
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Walls do not work.

Very easy to obtain entrance from the US/Canadian border that is un-walled.
What do you mean? Anyone walking across in remote areas are soon caught. Ground sensors, camera's, radar and drones, are constantly monitoring the border.

https://www.quora.com/How-easy-is-it...anadian-border
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