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View Poll Results: Do you think illegal aliens should be denied health care?
Yes, under all circumstances 51 35.42%
Yes, unless it is an emergency 73 50.69%
No, they should not be denied health care at hospitals and doctors offices 12 8.33%
Other 5 3.47%
No opinion/Not sure 3 2.08%
Voters: 144. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-21-2008, 04:33 PM
 
Location: California
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I think we should have universal health care...
Earth to TKramer, it sucks. If I had a choice to have free healthcare but sucks horribly, I'd rather pay for good healtcare.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Earth to TKramer, it sucks. If I had a choice to have free healthcare but sucks horribly, I'd rather pay for good healtcare.
I've had perfectly good experiences with "free" healthcare, as I pointed out.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:48 PM
 
Location: California
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I've had perfectly good experiences with "free" healthcare, as I pointed out.
Ask Canadians about their healtcare, or better yet, research it. They have to wait long periods of time before they can do something.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Ask Canadians about their healtcare, or better yet, research it. They have to wait long periods of time before they can do something.
I had a procedure where I was RUSHED to the hospital...even though I didn't see a need for medical treatment at all.

I got a black eye...and that's all I had. They wanted to do X-rays and all that junk. But I was seen RIGHT away, like it was some sort of emergency, when I wouldn't have even sought treatment.

So I have to disagree with you. Some things would be taken care of by emergency room personnel immediately. Other medical services might be just a little more "voluntary" and unnecessary.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:03 PM
 
Location: California
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I had a procedure where I was RUSHED to the hospital...even though I didn't see a need for medical treatment at all.

I got a black eye...and that's all I had. They wanted to do X-rays and all that junk. But I was seen RIGHT away, like it was some sort of emergency, when I wouldn't have even sought treatment.

So I have to disagree with you. Some things would be taken care of by emergency room personnel immediately. Other medical services might be just a little more "voluntary" and unnecessary.

That's emergency. You went to the hospital over a Black eye? LOL!. Anyway, in emergency they treat you no matter what.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:39 PM
 
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And even that costs money..
Yes that's true for sure. But not as much as having them sucking are system dry, and the crime so many are involved in also the price tag of them in our prisons. and their is the victims that would not be victims if they were where they belong. And then their is the anchors And so on Ect. Ect....
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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That's emergency. You went to the hospital over a Black eye? LOL!. Anyway, in emergency they treat you no matter what.
I told you...*I* didn't see it as an emergency. I wouldn't even have sought treatment...but they rushed me to the hospital, had me x-rayed, made sure there was no concussion, I suppose.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:34 AM
 
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I think we should have universal health care...
But, we, the taxpayers would STILL be paying for it, for us AND the illegals.
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Mass
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Absolutely, ocexpo!

There is no reason we should be extending Free Healthcare to anyone in this country illegally.

Actually, NO FREE BENEFITS WHATSOEVER!
I agree, wholeheartedly. There is a guest worker visa, if these interlopers and invaders, really wanted to come to work. The reason they don't use this method, as I am told, guest workers sign documents that state no benefits will be extended.
The underlying injustice here is that Big Industry likes these illegal aliens, invaders becasue they don't have to pay benefits, we have become their health plan, now they want college privilges, which also spares industry from paying educational benefits. Make the industries that are raided, use their assets to send these people back to their home countries, first class air. Maybe then employers will stop hiring them. I am sick to death of the new ideas illegal aliens come up with to strip America of its generous benefits. In my community they are sporting "handicap placards" so they can get free parking privileges....free. They are strutting around town, knowing that law enforcement is afraid to approach them. Some body some where explain to municipal leaders that these illegal aliens, eighteen year old men have not registered for Selective Service and can be apprehended as it is the law for documented and undocumented alike. Look at the brochures at your post office where it lists, who must register.
One of our brave er nurses, told one eighteen year old male, who was smiling as he lay on a gurney in the emergency room, for a minor illness, to get off the gurney and go wait in the waiting rooms like everyone else. She said, "you are not an emergency case, get off this gurney and wait." That is their latest gimmick, calling 911, circumventing waiting in the outer room where all their counterparts and kids are, and then they get a travel voucher back to their crowded cellar filled with mattress to mattresses. Recently, I had to go to a hospital in a nearby town and as I moaned over having to pay parking fees etc. the nurse leaned over and said, " And they get travel vouchers to come here." What? I had to fill my tank with $4.00 per gallon gas, pay eight dollars for a few hours and they get travel vouchers to out of town hospitals? What is going on? Now they are sending for their relatives who need serious surgery. Help!
GIVE AMERICANS WHAT ILLEGALS GET!!!! HOW IS THAT FOR A BUMPER STICKER? LET'S GO ON STRIKE. NO WAY ARE GOING TO OBEY! NOT ONE MORE LAW WILL WE BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IN COURT. IF THE LAWS DON'T APPLY TO THESE LAWLESS INVADERS, THEN GIVE US WHAT THEY GET. DO NOT QUESTION US. DO NOT ASK FOR DOCUMENTS. JUST GIVE ME THE MONEY. JUST GIVE ME HEALTHCARE. JUST LET MY WHOLE FAMILY COME IN ON THE NEXT VAN WITH THEIR MATTRESSES STRAPPED ON TOP. JUST GIVE ME WHATEVER YOU HAVE. I AM A PRIVILEGED ILLEGAL ALIEN ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE NOT. STEP ASIDE, AMERICANS, WHAT FOOLS YE BE.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:37 AM
 
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The question isn't worded right. I think it would be better to ask if illegals should be denied FREE health care, provided of course at American taxpayer expense or if they should be denied all health care.

If someone is here illegally and chooses to set up an appointment with a private physician and brings along cash to pay for his medical office visit, probably most would have less problem with that than the idea that being here illegally entitles you to whatever portion of Americans' income you feel you want.

There is absolutely NOTHING that says a Mexican here legally or illegally cannot set up an appointment with a doctor to seek medical advice. Most of course won't do that since they figure they should have it paid by others and can at the Emergency rooms.

Legal immigrants should be sponsored by employers or family members who should be required to take financial responsibility for their immigrant, so legal immigrants SHOULD not be a taxpayer burden but often are.
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