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Old 12-06-2008, 05:32 PM
 
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I can't say what I'd like to do to all of those traitors. If they think so little of this country, why don’t they do us all a favor and leave?
Oh, please. Pointing out that legal immigrants are allowed to come here every day WITH communicable diseases doesn't make someone a traitor. Pointing out hysterical stories with very little basis in fact doesn't make someone a traitor. And disagreeing with YOU doesn't make someone a traitor.

You should be glad. Now you have the facts. Now you can go to a restaurant and not worry about getting a worm in your head.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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No it doesn't matter what disease illegal aliens may spread. None of that was opinion. It's all fact.

When people come to this country every day legally and they are allowed to come even though they are infected with a disease like Hepatitis, that's cause for alarm, and it's no joke.

However, the TB rate in 2007 in the US was the lowest since 1953 (0.0044%). It is one of the most contagious diseases there is. It is far more transmissible than a tapeworm. Don't you think you'd be far more likely to get TB? And even multi-drug resistant TB has declined in 2007, to 98 cases nationwide, or 1% of all TB cases. Your chances are pretty slim.

I think you're pretty safe to eat in a restaurant without checking for green cards in the kitchen.
MISinformation!!! This is not true throughout the whole country.

U.S. Pharmacist

In contrast to the substantial decline in cases among U.S.-born persons since 1993, the number of cases reported among foreign-born persons has not changed substantially.


To address the high rate of TB among foreign-born people, the CDC is collaborating with other national public health organizations to strengthen the notification system that alerts local health departments about the arrival of immigrants or refugees who may have TB and to survey foreign-born TB patients to determine opportunities for improving TB prevention and control.

In 2004, for the first time, TB was reported more frequently among Hispanics than among any other racial/ethnic population. The number of cases in Hispanics increased 1.2% (from 4,109 in 2003 to 4,160 in 2004), but the TB rate for Hispanics decreased (from 10.3% in 2003 to 10.1% in 2004). The 2004 increase in cases and decrease in rates reflects a 3.6% increase in the number of Hispanics in the U.S., as compared with 2003. For blacks, whites, and Asians, the case numbers and rates both decreased. Of 3,221 Asians with TB and known origin of birth, 3,074 (95.4%) were foreign-born; of 4,105 Hispanics with TB, 3,037 (74%) were foreign-born; and of 3,981 blacks with TB, 1,055 (26.5%) were foreign-born.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Oh, please. Pointing out that legal immigrants are allowed to come here every day WITH communicable diseases doesn't make someone a traitor. Pointing out hysterical stories with very little basis in fact doesn't make someone a traitor. And disagreeing with YOU doesn't make someone a traitor.

You should be glad. Now you have the facts. Now you can go to a restaurant and not worry about getting a worm in your head.
Except that you didn't tell the whole truth with your post about TB and other diseases at all.

BTW, we weren't talking about the posts about diseases as being about or from traitors. You might weant to get some reading comprehension.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:37 PM
 
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My GOD!


What next.....what next....
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Pa
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But there is no screening or vaccination for tapeworms, which is the cause of this very gross disease. Legal immigrants are required to submit to a medical screening that includes HIV and TB testing, but not Hepatitis, which is highly infectious and contagious. Even better, an immigrant can be screened up to 12 months before arriving in the U.S., allowing for plenty of time to catch an infectious disease and bring it here.

So enjoy that fruit salad that just got coughed on by the legal immigrant with a raging case of infectious TB!

Refugee Health: Frequently Asked Questions | CDC DGMQ
So are you advocating no screening at all? The point is and (I feel like a broken record here) That illegals have received no screening and there for represent the greater risk. If you advocate a better screening I am for that. But short of a quarantine of all applicants this is what we have.
Flawed and less than perfect I'll take the system over the practice of turning a blind eye to illegals.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:41 PM
 
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You are right. That is one of the main reasons that I know exactly the restaurant I take my family to eat at. You do realize that all one has to do is to aks to see the kitchen and while one is looking at the kitchen one can see who is working back there. Easy as pie. And before you get all weirdo on me, I am of Mexican descent. I know about the damn diseases that so many immigrants and visitors to this country bring.
You can tell by looking at someone if they're a citizen or not?

That's amazing.

Look, I don't want to get sick from eating in a restaurant either. Thanks for saying "immigrants and visitors", because that's exactly the point. People come here all the time with lax screening requirements. A year between the screening and entry? No hepatitis screening? That should make someone mad - but no.

It's an immigration issue. Be mad that you can get a disease from the guy WITH the green card in the kitchen.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Pa
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The health screening for restaurants is a joke. It's basically just a questionnaire, where you circle answers for a short set of questions.
Antialphabet is making a fair point..... The screening is a joke for resturant help. It needs to be looked at by the powers that be and new laws or restrictions need to be created.
Fair post anti...
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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You can tell by looking at someone if they're a citizen or not?

That's amazing.

Look, I don't want to get sick from eating in a restaurant either. Thanks for saying "immigrants and visitors", because that's exactly the point. People come here all the time with lax screening requirements. A year between the screening and entry? No hepatitis screening? That should make someone mad - but no.

It's an immigration issue. Be mad that you can get a disease from the guy WITH the green card in the kitchen.
Did I say I could tell someone was illegal by looking? NO, I did not. Another piece of misinformation from you. You have a problem wuith reading comprehension.

You don't really want any screening though and that can be seen from your posts. I want laws and the Constitution followed. Since I know that they won't put a moratorium on immigration, then I really wish they would go back to how it was done before 1965 and stop ALL family reunification completely!!!!
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Oh, please. Pointing out that legal immigrants are allowed to come here every day WITH communicable diseases doesn't make someone a traitor. Pointing out hysterical stories with very little basis in fact doesn't make someone a traitor. And disagreeing with YOU doesn't make someone a traitor.

You should be glad. Now you have the facts. Now you can go to a restaurant and not worry about getting a worm in your head.
No, that doesn't make you a traitor. However, your indifference toward the potential threat millions of unscreened illegal aliens pose to this country, most assuredly does. You even appear to derive a sadistic pleasure from the notion of legal immigrants infecting citizens. Of course, that's simply my humble opinion, of which I am entitled to.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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No, that doesn't make you a traitor. However, your indifference toward the potential threat millions of unscreened illegal aliens pose to this country, most assuredly does. You even appear to derive a sadistic pleasure from the notion of legal immigrants infecting citizens. Of course, that's simply my humble opinion, of which I am entitled to.
Rep to you!!!!
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