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Ads, ads, ads...such junk. I tried ad-blocker several times and it made it impossible to navigate and some sites impossible to go on. I swear some of these "ads" are worms. Some sites have "ads" that will situate so if you navigate that site, you'll very likely click on that ad, and eventually have to log off to even get your computer operable.
I'm almost about to trash internet all together. This ad junk (so moronic) has slowed down internet to slower than Prodigy with phone lines in 1996. They can have it.
Blocking an ad is a copyright infringement? By NOT seeing something!
No I'm not kidding. Suppose you buy a magazine, you own the magazine and can sell it as is. What you don't own is the content of the magazine. If you were to offer a service to strip out the ads that would be copyright infringement even if you buying one magazine for every one you sold or gave away. Same thing would apply to movies, audio etc. You can't for example offer a service to take a movie and cut out all the profanity and sex scenes.
How this will apply to web pages is not something that has come up in the courts as far as I know but at some point in time a 500 pound gorilla that has the resources for a court case like this will.
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Theft of a service by refusing the "service"?
You are not refusing the service, you are refusing the ads which I the owner of that content have stipulated as part of the service. You don't get to decide what the service is, I do. If you want to refuse the service that is fine but you will refuse the entire service.
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You seem to have some sort of totalitarian vision where things can be forced on us.
I'm not forcing anything on you. If you do not like what I'm providing to you no one has a gun to your head.
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Didn't work with DVR skipping commercials, at least not yet
These features do not specifically skip commercials but instead jump ahead 15 or 30 seconds correct?
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Geesh, some folks won't give up.
When you work do you expect to get paid what you want/agreed to? If you offer to dig a hole in my backyard for $25 an hour and then I don't pay you would you be upset? When you are blocking the ads that I have set as the terms and conditions of the service I provide that is what you are doing to me, you are using my services and not paying me for them.
What coalman doesn't seem to understand is that ads per se are not the problem. The problem is certain kinds of ads that interfere with our browsing experience, whether by slowing page loading or obtrusively displaying with flashing, blocking content and, worst of all, video ads, which often masquerade as more content.
What you don't seem to understand is that is not my problem and nothing to do with me. You've made it my problem.
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Some sites have informative, useful ads that unfortunately get blocked, too.
What you also don't seem to understand is as revenue continues to decline for these sites say bye bye if things don't change.
Same thing would apply to movies, audio etc. You can't for example offer a service to take a movie and cut out all the profanity and sex scenes.
There are actually services that do just this (with user definable levels of edit). Vidangel and Clearplay are two that I'm aware of, but there are probably others.
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These features do not specifically skip commercials but instead jump ahead 15 or 30 seconds correct?
Cable company DVRs may not, but there are DVR products available that can completely skip (or cut out) commercials.
There are actually services that do just this (with user definable levels of edit). Vidangel and Clearplay are two that I'm aware of, but there are probably others.
These services do not change the source, this would be analogous to blocking the whole web page. We argue the point back and forth but this will be decided by the courts, just a matter of time.
They also rely on features the consumer would use for other purposes and this is important point. That is always a consideration in these court cases. The VCR for example can be used to infringe on copyright but it has legitimate other uses. More specifically there is a device called a TBC, this will retime analog video like VHS and it's a very important tool to have if you are doing analog to digital conversions. One of the side affects of what it does is to strip the copy protection on commercial VHS tapes or any copy protection over RCA cables. You can buy one because it's main purpose is to retime video.
coalman, I fell sorry for you for your badly mistaken understanding of copyright law. It's sad to see fake news like yours being promulgated, but I don't have the time (or the interest) in educating you regarding your mis-statements, so I will bow out of a discussion with you.
coalman, I fell sorry for you for your badly mistaken understanding of copyright law. It's sad to see fake news like yours being promulgated, but I don't have the time (or the interest) in educating you regarding your mis-statements, so I will bow out of a discussion with you.
LOL... whatever. What I think is you are just a little shy about pulling the trigger after getting educated in those video threads.
Here is the bottom line for me, if you don't like the terms I'm offering for the use of MY services, resources and time don't come to my site. Problem solved.
They are advertising their service as an ad blocker, if I pay them they will allow my ads to be shown. How about we'll call it extortion?
Call it whatever you want. It makes the Internet a better place.
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