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That's interesting, no I have not read the Talmud. So my point of reference was the Old Testament. But now I see where Mohammed got the idea from,about Jesus speaking as a new born. It's known that the Bible and Torah, Talmud were available at that time. I knew it was not in the Bible.
[quote]do you believe that our creator has the ability to make a new born baby speak in his first day?[\quote]
One word ..yes...God can do anything, but everything he does has a reason. It's not the fact that the newborn Jesus spoke that I have issue with, but the words he is reported to have said. They sound like words that a muslim would use. Now maybe Mohammed phrased the words so to make it easier for muslims to relate to and accept as truth, his claims for Jesus. As it was not recorded anywhere in the Bible, I can't really accept such a claim on the basis of such flimsy evidence.
[quote]a girl said to her friend i have to leave before midnight
and her friend said to her OK Cinderella.[\quote]
Yep..well good old Cinderella..whatever that means.
Your last point...is nothing more than conjecture, weather we exist before we are born is a mute point and one no one can prove. So that argument is a non starter.
Yep..well good old Cinderella..whatever that means.
i gave this example as replay for your comments regarding sister of Aaron
this statment can have more than one meaning and you only picked the a wrong meaning.
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Originally Posted by Nefol
Your last point...is nothing more than conjecture, weather we exist before we are born is a mute point and one no one can prove. So that argument is a non starter.
you asked when did Jesus got the scriptures? In the womb? Or before conception
one of my answer was
there was a period of time between the time he got born and the time she carried him to her people.
[quote]there was a period of time between the time he got born and the time she carried him to her people.[\quote]
There was also all eternity that Jesus spent with God from the beginning of creation.
John 1
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
there was a period of time between the time he got born and the time she carried him to her people.[\quote]
There was also all eternity that Jesus spent with God from the beginning of creation.
John 1
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
The word = Jesus.
That carries with it the Assumption that John 1 is true.
There are very likely a good many more, but you get the idea. Just as you feel that the Quran is the source of truth in matters of divinity then I too feel that the Bible has all the answers within it's pages. But as you have one interpretation ..that of Mohammed.. The Bible offers many examples of the same truth over a great many years by many authors. That they all say pretty much the same..I believe that are all guided by the same Holy Spirit of God. As I believe God knows best in all things then as far as I can see its a done deal. As a hoax on the scale of what Islam implies about corruption and changes to the Bible..is..IMHO.. pretty nye on impossible to carry off.
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