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Question: I've been told (by a friend) to go in and physically hand in a resume in addition to filling out the online form... This seems pushy and overbearing to me but she says they're the only applicants they'll look at. Thoughts?
Many places don't like drop ins and that is where the problem lies.
A couple of weeks ago, I had an interview for a job I applied for online. I know that HR printed out the application because the person who called me up said that she put my application in the wrong pile. When I got to the interview, I had to fill out another application on paper. Their online form had so many errors on it and so did their paper form. My resume was more comprehensive than their applications. All they had to do was review my resume and have me fill out an application after being hired. They even took a copy of my driver's license and social security card (which is something all security companies do around here) and I didn't even get the job. That's why I want to get out of the security industry so bad. From the guards to top management, 95% of the people are borderline retarded.
Here's an example of the retardation in the security industry.
The HR person has been at the San Antonio branch of AlliedBarton for years and she doesn't even know how to spell "role." No wonder why the company is losing contracts left and right. She's also the same person who sent me a rejection email for a job offer I turned down and didn't even apply to in the first place.
I applied to that company a few weeks ago. They claimed the requirements were only to have a clean mvr and background. The position was listed as entry level but of course no phone call. What are they seeking for entry level candidates to at least get a foot in the door?
I applied to that company a few weeks ago. They claimed the requirements were only to have a clean mvr and background. The position was listed as entry level but of course no phone call. What are they seeking for entry level candidates to at least get a foot in the door?
That may have been their minimum qualification, but what if they received 10 applications from people with a couple of years of experience? Should they pass on those applicants to call you?
What if they received 200 applications and had only 3 open positions. Should they call all 200? Or would it be a better use of their time to call 25 and choose the top 3?
Applying for jobs can be a numbers game. Throw out a zillion applications, because most will go nowhere. But you only need one offer and then you are a success.
That may have been their minimum qualification, but what if they received 10 applications from people with a couple of years of experience? Should they pass on those applicants to call you?
What if they received 200 applications and had only 3 open positions. Should they call all 200? Or would it be a better use of their time to call 25 and choose the top 3?
Applying for jobs can be a numbers game. Throw out a zillion applications, because most will go nowhere. But you only need one offer and then you are a success.
At least send a BCC to the rejected ones. I have applied for many places that will not even send a rejection letter. Or if they do, it's months down the road.
a rejection letter is not needed when someone applies to a job and doesn't fit the qualifications
the discussion was about people who DO fit the qualifications but don't get an interview. i do think it's too much to expect to get an interview just because you meet the minimum - as fishbrains said, if you have a ton of people who meet the minimum, you aren't obligated to interview them all. of course employers pick the candidates who are the most qualified to interview, and they may all exceed the minimum.
in any case, a rejection letter is never technically needed, but i happen to believe that companies should have the decency to spend the insignificant amount of time that it takes to reject everyone who doesn't get the job.
the discussion was about people who DO fit the qualifications but don't get an interview. i do think it's too much to expect to get an interview just because you meet the minimum - as fishbrains said, if you have a ton of people who meet the minimum, you aren't obligated to interview them all. of course employers pick the candidates who are the most qualified to interview, and they may all exceed the minimum.
in any case, a rejection letter is never technically needed, but i happen to believe that companies should have the decency to spend the insignificant amount of time that it takes to reject everyone who doesn't get the job.
Well if they fit the qualifications and don't get a call back then that means the job posting was fake
Well if they fit the qualifications and don't get a call back then that means the job posting was fake
Or maybe there are even more-qualified candidates.
Or maybe the employer found enough qualified candidates to interviews.
Or maybe the qualified candidate is too late, the interviewing process is at the tail end or a candidate has
already been id.
Or maybe they don't fit the qualifications like they thought
Or maybe the job went on hold
Or maybe there are even more qualified candidates.
Or maybe the employer found enough qualified candidates to interviews.
Or maybe the qualified candidate is too late, the interviewing process is at the tail end or a candidate has
already been id.
Or maybe they don't fit the qualifications like they thought
Or maybe the job went on hold
yep, this.
or maybe they are qualified but their resume was full of typos. or they didn't come across well in their cover letter. or they didn't follow application instructions. or they called the hiring manager and tried to do a hard sell sales pitch, and the manager didn't like it. or they mailed a bunch of weird "creative" stuff to the employer as a prelude to applying. i was just reading a blog post about an applicant who showed up at the office with gifts for the hiring manager. creeeeeeeeeeeeepy.
if an employer gets 200 applications (not unusual for a lot of jobs) and 50 of those applicants meet the minimum qualifications, they are not going to do 50 interviews. 40 or so of those qualified applicants are not going to get a call back. that doesn't mean the job is fake.
here's that blog post, i think it sums up well why showing up at a prospective employer's office is rarely a good idea. this woman was going to get an interview, and she blew it:
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Their online form had so many errors on it and so did their paper form. My resume was more comprehensive than their applications. All they had to do was review my resume and have me fill out an application after being hired. They even took a copy of my driver's license and social security card (which is something all security companies do around here) and I didn't even get the job. That's why I want to get out of the security industry so bad. From the guards to top management, 95% of the people are borderline retarded. 
