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Old 06-27-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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We just had another applicant miss out on getting the job earlier this morning because in speaking with her we caught that she uses the word "anyways" instead of "anyway".

Another thing I sometimes see in posts in this forum that I also see on resumes, is people don't know when to use "a" vs "an". I'll see things like, "I developed an marketing plan" or "I was involved in a internal project".

We don't mind training people for the job but we don't have time to go through English 101.
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You may be from a different generation or culture, but it really isn't uptight to expect people to speak properly in a business setting.

I can't put you in front of clients if you sound like you're five. The word is "anyway".
I've come across people who feel that the word anyway is unprofessional. Just one of those things where you have to go with who will be a good fit for your image and clientel. Not necessarily anything to do with generation, only atmosphere.

Also, on a/an, it's possible that it's a post-edit typo they just didn't notice where they changed the word following and forgot to switch the a/an. For example, they write I was involved in a stimulating internal project and they later think that stimulating should go, so they quickly highlight it, delete it, and move on, forgetting to switch a to an.

That happens often enough. One should be more careful about that sort of thing on a resume, definitely. Just saying that even though it happens a lot, it's not necessarily a grammatical error. It may be an editing error.

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What is wrong, if we take care of friends and family, before an unknown person. Are we not to take care of our families to the best of our ability. I have hired family members and close friends in the past several times. I knew what to expect from them, and did not know about strangers.
I'm all for someone trying to take care of home first, so to speak. I only take issue with the idea if the person hiring knows their friend/relative isn't a good fit for the job, but gives it to them anyway over more qualified candidates because of their relationship. Then again, it's not exactly rare.
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Old 06-27-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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What is wrong? Those people are sometimes not the best choice. Just because they are "known" to you does not mean they are the better choice. Plus, you spoke in an absolute when you said that there is only one reason someone else got the job. There are many reasons, some being unethical, that someone may or may not get a job.
And sometimes the most qualified is not the best choice, either.

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That happens often enough. One should be more careful about that sort of thing on a resume, definitely. Just saying that even though it happens a lot, it's not necessarily a grammatical error. It may be an editing error.
But both are pretty unforgivable in formal business correspondence.
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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And sometimes the most qualified is not the best choice, either.

Fair enough. But choosing to give a job to someone just because you know them (family, friends) does not always mean they will do the best job. That was my point.
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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I only take issue with the idea if the person hiring knows their friend/relative isn't a good fit for the job, but gives it to them anyway over more qualified candidates because of their relationship. Then again, it's not exactly rare.

Bingo.
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:07 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I'm all for someone trying to take care of home first, so to speak. I only take issue with the idea if the person hiring knows their friend/relative isn't a good fit for the job, but gives it to them anyway over more qualified candidates because of their relationship. Then again, it's not exactly rare.
If you say so. I've only been working 20 years and I've never once seen it happen. Not saying it doesn't. People are usually super careful about recommending people for positions or encouraging them to apply as it comes back as a reflection on them.
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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If you say so. I've only been working 20 years and I've never once seen it happen. Not saying it doesn't. People are usually super careful about recommending people for positions or encouraging them to apply as it comes back as a reflection on them.
It's just like the boss's family member who is a total f***-off that would never get fired despite being just that. We've all heard the stories of the boss's son being an idiot and doing things that should be firable but always given that second chance. Perhaps the places you've worked at has never had that problem because the business owner is willing to fire or the family members or friends are not the mouth breathers we always hear about getting jobs.
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I've come across people who feel that the word anyway is unprofessional. Just one of those things where you have to go with who will be a good fit for your image and clientel. Not necessarily anything to do with generation, only atmosphere.
Those people are morons. That's not how the English language works. The word is anyway - how could it possibly be considered unprofessional? That's ridiculous.

And no, atmosphere or field has nothing to do with it.
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Old 06-29-2014, 05:05 PM
 
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IMO that could be a discussion in its own thread.:

"Anyway/Anyways and is it worth firing for?"

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Those people are morons. That's not how the English language works. The word is anyway - how could it possibly be considered unprofessional? That's ridiculous.

And no, atmosphere or field has nothing to do with it.
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Old 06-29-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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IMO that could be a discussion in its own thread.:

"Anyway/Anyways and is it worth firing for?"

Who said anything about firing? We just don't hire people who do not know how to speak the language properly.
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:10 AM
 
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It's just like the boss's family member who is a total f***-off that would never get fired despite being just that. We've all heard the stories of the boss's son being an idiot and doing things that should be firable but always given that second chance. Perhaps the places you've worked at has never had that problem because the business owner is willing to fire or the family members or friends are not the mouth breathers we always hear about getting jobs.

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