[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by Labonte18

Key word.. gave. They haven't given any money to those groups since 2012.

Two whole years! Well, that certainly counts as "water under the bridge." Not.

When they work just as hard to undo the damage they caused, I'll try one of their sandwiches. Not a minute sooner.

[timtemtym]

It's not about Dan or his company being against gay marriage. What bothered me was the money he donated towards anti-gay conversion therapy and how he advocated for them. Their charitable arm gave money and supported that. It is hugely damaging to youth who often don't get a say when their parents send them there desperate to change them. It's awful and horrific and I won't set foot in a Chick-fil-a or even partake when it's brought to work.

Our local CFA had some big anti-bullying day and outreach to the Hollywood community. I still didn't partake. They can talk all they want and serve everyone who walks through the door and even do franchise business with an "open lesbian" (as someone on here put it), but what they fund hurts people. And no I don't investigate every company to make sure I only support ones who are not so awful. But when it is put in my face, I make the choice that gives me peace of mind.

[Willy702]

Originally Posted by Labonte18

Who are they discriminating against?

Do they refuse to hire someone who is gay? No. Do they refuse to serve someone who is gay? No. so.. Exactly how do they discriminate?



You think they really care? They're a business.. They care about one thing.. Getting money. Not particularly where it comes from. I'm sure they're as happy to serve a sandwich to a gay man as they are to serve one to the Pope.



Key word.. gave. They haven't given any money to those groups since 2012. And, also.. The focus for them was support of 'traditional marriage' not trying to outlaw homosexuality. Personally, I've always thought that the simplest answer would be to call them "Civil Unions".. That way, the religions could be happy that "Marriage" was between a man and woman, but others could be happy that they got the exact same thing with their own special name for it.

That's the thing about these 'protests'.. People don't know when things change. Almost like Rosanna Rosannadanna.. "well then.. Nevermind". There's people now who say they refuse to order from Domino's because their owner (who sold the chain in 1998 or so) donated money to several anti-abortion groups. No need to refuse to order from Domino's because of that.. If you want to refuse to order because the food sucks.. More power to you. Refusing to order because the owner from 20 years ago did something you don't like is dumb.

So.. Now that CFA does not give money to those organizations.. Does that change the minds of people about eating there? usually not.. Because it's not about that.. It's about being a narcissist and a contrarion and continuing to say that you never eat there is about setting yourself apart in order to feel superior to everyone else... Or it's just stupidity in not realizing that things have changed.

If you dug through every company's form 990.. You're likely to find a donation to some place you don't like.. Or some practice of the company that you don't like. So.. you probably wouldn't drink the bleach because of some donation P&G made to some group that you disagree with.


Good food, good service.. I'll eat there. Place like Jack in the Box? The food sucks.. I don't care if my eating there once feeds a family in Africa for a year.. If CFA started giving money to terrorists.. I probably wouldn't eat there. But, I also wouldn't go around trying to get people to pat me on the back by telling them "Oh, look at me, i'm so much better than you because I don't eat there"

Too bad we cant 10x hail a post like this. The people who try to act like their decisions make them a saint are just hilarious. Like a vegan person at work who says McDonald's is gross and its a disgrace they are allowed to operate. How does such a person think we care or even think they have standing to make such proclamations? No one is going to ask such a person if the burgers are any good.

[EA]

So, the pizza place who made a statement against gay people raised almost a million dollars on gofundme.
The people affected by the earthquake in Nepal raised a little over half of that.

The cake bakery who made a similar antigay statement, raised a bunch of money, on several gofundmes, before gofundme pulled them.

Chikfila, during the wake of Dan Cathy's BS, made a crap ton more money from people who wanted to support his bigotry.

My point is, silent anonymous protest is going to be more effective against this type of crap than a vocal one.

[Willy702]

Originally Posted by EA

So, the pizza place who made a statement against gay people raised almost a million dollars on gofundme.
The people affected by the earthquake in Nepal raised a little over half of that.

The cake bakery who made a similar antigay statement, raised a bunch of money, on several gofundmes, before gofundme pulled them.

Chikfila, during the wake of Dan Cathy's BS, made a crap ton more money from people who wanted to support his bigotry.

My point is, silent anonymous protest is going to be more effective against this type of crap than a vocal one.

Buying dinner from CFA does NOT in any way shape or form imply anything about one's desire to support the owners views of the world. All it implies is one likes the food and is hungry. Why would you ever imply anything else? This is utter nonsense, like terrorists saying an American supports the military decisions of the government by living here and paying taxes. Same utter nonsense.

[EA]

There's a subtle difference between paying taxes and buying chicken.

Taxes are mandatory.....


If a lot of anti gay people show up to buy chikfila, boosting their sales, the guy at the top makes more money with which to donate to anti gay establishments.

If a lot of pro gay people stop going to chikfila, cutting their sales, the guy at the top makes less money with which to donate to anti gay establishments.

Real basic free market stuff here.


When the donations he made became public knowledge, a large group of people called for a boycott. That is a fact.
When word spread of the boycott, another large group, vowed to eat a lot more chikfila. Lines were twice as long as they were during this time.
To ignore these basic tenants of business, sales - overhead = profit is ignorant.

I don't want my money going to fund bigotry, so I elect to avoid, as best I can, institutions known for participating in bigotry. Realistically, mere pennies of my money might make it to the top people who decide on the bigoted funding if I patronize their businesses, but it's all I can do. Now, if a million people join me, then those pennies really add up.

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by Willy702

This is utter nonsense, like terrorists saying an American supports the military decisions of the government by living here and paying taxes. Same utter nonsense.

The travel writer Rick Steves disagrees -- what our military does often makes we, the people, targets. I disagree with a great deal our military does. But because I'm a citizen, I have to accept responsibility for what the government does in my name -- even if I disagree with it.

And that's why I won't eat at Chick-Fil-A. I don't want to be part of what I consider to be a problem.

[ND_Irish]

For those who are interested in Chik-fil-A, I saw the following listed on the City of Henderson Planning Commission Regular Meeting Agenda for June 11, 2015:


11.
PUBLIC HEARING
A) CUP-15-500153 - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
B) DRA-15-500154 - DESIGN REVIEW
C) MSP-08-590022-A3 - MASTER SIGN PLAN AMENDMENT
CHICKI-FIL-A

APPLICANT: Chick-Fil-A

Final action by Planning Commission

(For Possible Action)
A) Eating and Drinking Establishment with Drive-Through Service;
B) Review of an Eating and Drinking Establishment with Drive-Through service; and
C) Amend the Eastgate Master Sign Plan to allow for two additional wall signs, increase the height of the letters to 60 inches, and add a monument sign; located at 460 N. Stephanie Street, in the Whitney Ranch Planning Area.

[ND_Irish]

Chick-fil-A files for permit in Henderson | Las Vegas Review-Journal

[Danknee]

Once it opens everyone can get it out of their system and maybe some will even join me on my Chick-Fil-A is mediocre (to bad) island. In highschool I'd always pick Wendy's over Chick-Fik-A, and not because I love Wendy's.