[VLWH]

Originally Posted by lyra33

Las Vegas as "you" know it pretty much exists for the 2-3 million plus tourists who come here each month. From what I have seen most locals tend to live pretty normal lives. There's temptation wherever you go. The place does not chose that for a person...the person does.

So if you are that person I can see it in your best interest to move to Alaska where resources are limited and you do not have the choice.

Your examples do not prove your point at all. I have great water because I have a filter, plenty of parks and nature to exercise, and health food stores if I need them. Having more choices does not make a person better!

2007


Metro Areas with the Highest Premiums:

Pittsburgh, PA - $1,249
Virginia Beach, VA - $1,172
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, NH (NH portion) - $960
Boston, MA - $949
Arlington, VA - $940
Tampa, FL - $939
Baltimore, MD - $931
Milwaukee, WI - $916
Long Island-Northern New Jersey, NJ (NJ portion) - $914
Provo, Utah - $912


Metro Areas with the Lowest Premiums
Here are the metro areas with the lowest average employee contribution in the U.S.

Boise, ID - $403
Honolulu, HI - $434
Portland, OR - $472
San Antonio, TX - $545
Las Vegas, NV - $572
San Jose, CA - $576
Sacramento, CA - $576
Burlington, VT - $578
Tulsa, OK - $590
Kansas City, MO - $596



Overview of Health Insurance Premiums by Region

[Tiger Beer]

Originally Posted by Card Shark 2

And that is why Nevada has some of the highest health insurance costs. Unhealthy living: eatting bad, smoking, too much drinking, not enough exercise, bad water etc. And places like Colorado have the lowest health insurance costs. Healthy living: better food, health food stores all over the place offering better choices, less restaurant eatting, cleaner water, less binge drinking, plenty of exercise, etc.
What sounds better to you?

Depends on the person how they want to live their life. Living in Vegas doesn't make someone smoke, drink too much, eat at buffets. If a person is attracted to that, they might be attracted to Vegas though.

Likewise, with Denver. Living in Denver doesn't make someone ski, hike, exercise. But if someone is into those things, it might attract them to Denver though.

In the end though, individual choices though.

[Daddys///M3]

Originally Posted by VLWH

2007


Metro Areas with the Highest Premiums:

Pittsburgh, PA - $1,249
Virginia Beach, VA - $1,172
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, NH (NH portion) - $960
Boston, MA - $949
Arlington, VA - $940
Tampa, FL - $939
Baltimore, MD - $931
Milwaukee, WI - $916
Long Island-Northern New Jersey, NJ (NJ portion) - $914
Provo, Utah - $912


Metro Areas with the Lowest Premiums
Here are the metro areas with the lowest average employee contribution in the U.S.

Boise, ID - $403
Honolulu, HI - $434
Portland, OR - $472
San Antonio, TX - $545
Las Vegas, NV - $572
San Jose, CA - $576
Sacramento, CA - $576
Burlington, VT - $578
Tulsa, OK - $590
Kansas City, MO - $596



Overview of Health Insurance Premiums by Region

Nice post. I love it when someone posts relevant data as opposed to opinion (which is usually the modus operandi of the bashers) to prove their point. Curious to see where Colorado stacked up against Nevada in the insurance premium comparison, I followed the link you posted (and actually had to do a bit more link clicking) and it turns out that insurance premiums in CO actually average just over $200 a month MORE than Nevada.
+1 rep point for you.
http://www.meps.ahrq.gov/mepsweb/dat...2009/tixa2.pdf

[Buzz123]

Provo, UT, was surprisingly high.

One negative thing I am always willing to concede about living in the desert is that the air quality sucks. It sucks naturally in the desert, so adding 2 million people doesn't help. Living in the mountains has to be healthier due to better air quality. I don't have any figures on it, but I've read several times that there is less oxygen in the air everywhere than what it was 100 years ago, but in mountains and near the ocean it is usually at least cleaner. We need oxygen for metabolism as well as for life and good health. I believe that it will eventually be shown that all the chemical pollution that we breathe, eat, drink, and contact through our skin, is more responsible for obesity, and other health problems, like the so called ADHD, etc., than anything else.

[lyra33]

Originally Posted by Buzz123

Provo, UT, was surprisingly high

Really? Someone has to pay for all those babies! (BYU newly married 20 somethings!)

[thepokerhulk]

People like redwingsfan //www.city-data.com/forum/las-v...overrated.html are atypical of the same people who claim that 2012 will be the date that will usher in the end of the world as we know it...This is salvation phase Jesus is not on the judgment seat...yet. That event is a ROLLOVER CALENDER - OMFG!!! in my humble opinion...complete BS!! been there done that, every city has problems even in Des Moines,San Francisco,and New York.

Don`t move to Vegas??? What??? - It`s pure entertainment,shows and an alcoholics candy-land; and plenty of women to floss your pockets... and gaming. Unless your a poker player, your bound to lose, believe me I know about it all too well.

I`ve been in and lived in and around Vegas it`s great! But it is better moving on the outskirts of Vegas, away from the crime and punks. Sure there are homeless ...like didn`t Jesus say the poor you will ALWAYS have with you? Eh? Sniveling at others who need help is just plain wrong, yeah maybe they will use it to further their habits...but maybe those ten bucks will come back around to you one day when you see that same guy say he won a few million from ten bucks someone gave him, and he`s looking for you to return the favor!!!! Have we become so callous at our own people? Are we the judges of thoughts?

Don`t listen to the "naysayers",thousands of people live and work and breath the refreshing hot air (over cold snow) these guys are worse than those people who claimed that "all" Russian women are criminals, these are the same people who also ask these same women to send them nude pics of them while they are photo-shopping their passport photo at the same time! They know absolutely "nothing" about Russians ,Russian women ( and why they steal) or the culture...they don`t even know what Europeans do on weekends - it all comes from other negative people and television shows...or bad information...they are merely ignorant heartless Americans who have never really traveled and are as opinionated as casino watchdog websites...these are the same people who are screwing up Google search relevancy, they can`t even get their code right on their pages....they are as about as overly-paranoiac as the local media and conspiracy theorists. Don`t let these kinds of people do your thinking for you -- I would say that if one is concerned about crime - one can and should move near or outside of Vegas there are plenty of places throughout Nevada.

DUH!

[Robustus]

Please.....tell us more.

[Danknee]

Originally Posted by Buzz123

Provo, UT, was surprisingly high.

One negative thing I am always willing to concede about living in the desert is that the air quality sucks. It sucks naturally in the desert, so adding 2 million people doesn't help. Living in the mountains has to be healthier due to better air quality. I don't have any figures on it, but I've read several times that there is less oxygen in the air everywhere than what it was 100 years ago, but in mountains and near the ocean it is usually at least cleaner. We need oxygen for metabolism as well as for life and good health. I believe that it will eventually be shown that all the chemical pollution that we breathe, eat, drink, and contact through our skin, is more responsible for obesity, and other health problems, like the so called ADHD, etc., than anything else.

I lived in Salt Lake City for 29 years and the air quality was always worse than Las Vegas. The mountains create a bowl (where everyone lives) and inversion traps the pollutants in the bowl. All the residents live inside this bowl and suffer the wrath of poor air quality. We had red burn days all the time and your lungs would physically hurt if you tried exercising in that nastiness. During red burn days I have driven 30-45 minutes up the mountain (beyond where you can build a house) and when I got far enough up in altitude I rose above the pollution. Looked like one big dirty cloud, I couldn't even see the city through it.

Pahrump was the only Nevada city to make any of the three most polluted lists and it was beat by over 20 towns in the same list, most in closer proximity to the ocean and mountains than it. (link (http://www.stateoftheair.org/2010/city-rankings/most-polluted-cities.html - broken link))

By Ozone:
#1: Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA
#2: Bakersfield, CA
#3: Visalia-Porterville, CA
#4: Fresno-Madera, CA
#5: Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Yuba City, CA-NV
#6: Hanford-Corcoran, CA
#7: Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX
#8: San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA
#9: San Luis Obispo-Paso Robles, CA
#10: Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC
#11: Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
#12: Merced, CA
#13: Dallas-Fort Worth, TX
#14: Knoxville-Sevierville-La Follette, TN
#15: El Centro, CA
#16: New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA
#16: Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV
#18: Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN
#19: Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL
#19: Birmingham-Hoover-Cullman, AL
#21: Las Vegas-Paradise-Pahrump, NV
#22: Modesto, CA
#22: Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD
#24: Chico, CA
#25: Baton Rouge-Pierre Part, LA

By Year Round Particle Pollution
#1: Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
#2: Bakersfield, CA
#3: Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA
#3: Visalia-Porterville, CA
#5: Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA
#6: Fresno-Madera, CA
#7: Birmingham-Hoover-Cullman, AL
#8: Hanford-Corcoran, CA
#9: Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN
#9: St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL
#11: Charleston, WV
#11: Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI
#11: Weirton-Steubenville, WV-OH
#14: Louisville-Jefferson County-Elizabethtown-Scottsburg, KY-IN
#14: Modesto, CA
#16: Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL
#16: Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX
#16: Huntington-Ashland, WV-KY-OH
#19: Cleveland-Akron-Elyria, OH
#19: Macon-Warner Robins-Fort Valley, GA
#21: Hagerstown-Martinsburg, MD-WV
#21: Knoxville-Sevierville-La Follette, TN
#23: Augusta-Richmond County, GA-SC
#24: Indianapolis-Anderson-Columbus, IN
#25: Parkersburg-Marietta, WV-OH
#25: York-Hanover-Gettysburg, PA

By Short Term Particle Pollution
#1: Bakersfield, CA
#2: Fresno-Madera, CA
#3: Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA
#4: Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA
#5: Birmingham-Hoover-Cullman, AL
#6: Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Yuba City, CA-NV
#7: Salt Lake City-Ogden-Clearfield, UT
#8: Visalia-Porterville, CA
#9: Modesto, CA
#10: Hanford-Corcoran, CA
#11: Merced, CA
#12: Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD
#13: Provo-Orem, UT
#14: Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
#15: Stockton, CA
#16: Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI
#17: San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA
#18: Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV
#18: New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA
#18: Logan, UT-ID
#21: Eugene-Springfield, OR
#22: Harrisburg-Carlisle-Lebanon, PA
#23: San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA
#23: Indianapolis-Anderson-Columbus, IN
#23: Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ

[Swigchow]

Don't breath the air or drink the water.

10 U.S. cities with the worst drinking water - Business - Oil & energy - Going Green - msnbc.com

[vegaslocal55]

Originally Posted by Robustus

Please.....tell us more.

Have you ever noticed how often peoples' first posts read like this-then we never hear from them again?! Thanks for the very informative first post, pokerhulk. Looking forward to more.