[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by joelg1988

The thing is don't measure the entire Clark County area, you have to only count where people live. In this case Vegas measures about ~20 miles wide (west to east) and ~27 miles tall (north to south). That equals to ~540 square miles of space where people actually live and make an agglomeration. Measuring entire Clark county doesn't do justice on my comparison.

Definitely not comparing Vegas to any city in California because it just simply wouldn't make sense.

Kansas City metro area for example measures about ~40 miles wide and about ~37 miles tall, that gives you over 1300 square miles where people actually live.

Thanks for your input however

Sorry that is not how it works.

Very common for the large western cities to have large expanses of empty land in the middle of things. LA for instance has huge quantities of vacant space. Drive through Sepulveda pass sometime and just watch.

You could of course do some sort of comparison of the urban core if you want. But there Las Vegas will again appear quite low density. The Las Vegas build out is and will remain flat. So no higher density areas.

From Indian Springs, the NW outpost, to Boulder City is 70 miles. Mesquite is 70 miles to the NE. And there is 50 miles of light development to the SW. And as things develop the MSA will continue to grow. It will likely end up eventually limited by water though that problem may eventually yield. With the existing water supply Las Vegas will make it to maybe 3.5 million. If that gets fixed it may well go to 5 million or more.

And land will not be a problem for any of that.

And with the coming of the autonomous vehicle Las Vegas will remain a very nice place.

For Tij and the light train fans I think the right thing was done. You have to be out of your head to put down rail with the arrival of the AVs small buses end up the pot of gold. Run them in continuous streams for rail like performance. Then break up at the ends for last mile.

[wpcoe]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Sorry Joe simply not true. Clark County alone is over 8,000 square miles. The Metropolitan area is over 30,000 square miles. Density is very low a tiny percentage of say LA or OC.

30,000 square miles? A square with 173 miles on each side would be 30,000 miles. Just how far does the metropolitan area extend? The entire state of Nevada is 110.5 square miles.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by wpcoe

30,000 square miles? A square with 173 miles on each side would be 30,000 miles. Just how far does the metropolitan area extend? The entire state of Nevada is 110.5 square miles.

Look up MSA. Then you can go to the following site to read the real data...

https://www.census-charts.com/Metropolitan/Density.html

Scary is it not?

[tijlover]

Originally Posted by chahunt

RTC voted in favor of rapid bus transit. No light rail here. Boo.

Good! Given the backwardness and conservatism of Las Vegans, no surprise!

Now, a good portion of the rest of the country can continue to laugh at Las Vegas! Stuck in the 1960's, no embracing of the 21st century!

[EA]

Originally Posted by tijlover

Good! Given the backwardness and conservatism of Las Vegans, no surprise!

Now, a good portion of the rest of the country can continue to laugh at Las Vegas! Stuck in the 1960's, no embracing of the 21st century!

Trains are older than buses.....

[tijlover]

I tried to escape from the conservatism of Las Vegas in 2008, got caught up in the RE crash, and I was finally able to escape last June.

I'm sure the decision to go with rapid bus transit on Maryland had something to do with, as always, the taxi unions along with Lyft and Uber. They'll be celebrating for years along with the owner of the LV Review Journal.

[timothyaw]

Originally Posted by tijlover

I tried to escape from the conservatism of Las Vegas in 2008, got caught up in the RE crash, and I was finally able to escape last June.

I'm sure the decision to go with rapid bus transit on Maryland had something to do with, as always, the taxi unions along with Lyft and Uber. They'll be celebrating for years along with the owner of the LV Review Journal.

Per their own results, people overwhelmingly wanted light rail. They claim cost was the only reason they went with BRT.

[tijlover]

When I left Las Vegas, and still subscribed to the newspaper, the owner of the paper, in article after article, pooh-poohed any idea of light rail in Las Vegas, even the extension of the monorail to Mandalay Bay.

For those that are seeking a 1960's flavor to their city, Las Vegas is the city for you!

[Hrothgar]

Because if there is one thing Tucson is known for it is for being forward thinking and with the times.....

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by EA

Trains are older than buses.....

19th century transportation.