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Old 07-18-2020, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Wow, so you have talked to ALL of them and they ALL said the same thing? Casinos seem to be trying to protect their employees.

Please quit projecting your view on a large group without any basis - this is YOUR viewpoint - it is NOT reality.
That's not how statistics work. My sample size is large enough to derive a very good estimate for the population. It is not my viewpoint, it is the viewpoint of casino workers.

Here is refresher for you on the coefficient of determination
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coef..._determination
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Old 07-20-2020, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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That's not how statistics work. My sample size is large enough to derive a very good estimate for the population. It is not my viewpoint, it is the viewpoint of casino workers.

Here is refresher for you on the coefficient of determination
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coef..._determination
I can assure you I probably know statistics a lot more than you do since that was a part of my job - but when you say ALL that is 100%. In your case, to get 100%, every plot would have to be on top of each other, NO coefficient gets you ALL. I can assure you that your sample size is too small to get any certainly close to 100% - you are projecting your opinion.
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:00 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas, NV
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There are plenty of ethical businesses that treat their employees right.

It's not always about money and showing off.

As such, I'm moving to Denmark.
Nah...Reykjavik or Oslo for sure!

Iceland is rated the happiest country. And as far as Oslo that is my Norwegian blood calling me to the motherland.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I can assure you I probably know statistics a lot more than you do since that was a part of my job - but when you say ALL that is 100%. In your case, to get 100%, every plot would have to be on top of each other, NO coefficient gets you ALL. I can assure you that your sample size is too small to get any certainly close to 100% - you are projecting your opinion.
Wow who would have thought someone projecting their own opinions on a public forum?

Shocker.
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Old 07-26-2020, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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It's been said all along, A/C could be helping spread coronavirus

Air Conditioning May Be Spreading COVID
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...preading-covid

I would think air conditioning also means heating since aged care homes are largely and easily affected (yes there's plenty of old people/easily infected). Dr Osterholm said it way back in March: https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

What have the casinos done to upgrade their HVAC systems???

A start could be to look at UVGI, maintaining optimal humidity levels to prevent virus replication, exhausting more air and drawing more outside fresh air, cleaning and maintaining filters and other changeable components.

Meat packing plants, cruise ships, airplanes, casinos, restaurants... I would not be entering any of those unless absolutely necessary and I would be donning a mask.

Mounting evidence shows masks may help avoid severe illness, even if you get COVID-19
https://fox6now.com/2020/07/25/mount...-get-covid-19/
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Old 07-27-2020, 09:55 AM
 
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Is it even worth it to keep casinos open right now? I dont understand or know how any casino will survive this.

Some older casino employees I know are trying to retire early. One is trying to start a business, the other is selling his home and moving out of state.
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Old 07-27-2020, 04:17 PM
 
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Is it even worth it to keep casinos open right now? I dont understand or know how any casino will survive this.

Some older casino employees I know are trying to retire early. One is trying to start a business, the other is selling his home and moving out of state.
Casinos make more money being open than closing. Most are losing money in total because they have debts and/or rents to pay. But those obligations are not going away so better to open the doors and make what you can.

There is certainly some opportunistic view from the operators. They don't have a lot of flexibility in staffing, so expect all of them to find ways to cut staff so that even at the time things are "normal" and operating at 100% again they will have lower costs and less staff. Union rules, long-term contracts, and other obligations can only be cut in a crisis so all of them have incentive to open and then cut those down as best as they can. And if some older employees are retiring now, all the better for the casinos.
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Old 07-27-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Yes, protect their employees so they can protect their business. It's easy to run a casino when things are rosy.

Ask any low level worker how they are treated, this includes dealers. All of them will say the exact same thing.

Their failure to protect their employees and patrons will only lead to decreased profits and potential closures.
Being a dealer is a skilled profession. The rules on games can get pretty complex, such as craps.

Finding honest and trustworthy people to handle money, enforce the rules, and doing intake with new employees is more expensive in the long run!
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Old 07-27-2020, 06:24 PM
 
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IIRC, Nevada legalized online gambling in 2013 and AFAIK, there are not any online casino game options.

Are the big casino operators against online since people could sit home and gamble rather than spending more money at other venues at the casinos? I could see how a Wynn, MGM, or Caesar's app would be advantageous right now but could they pull them away once they could safely get people in the door?
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:42 PM
 
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IIRC, Nevada legalized online gambling in 2013 and AFAIK, there are not any online casino game options.

Are the big casino operators against online since people could sit home and gamble rather than spending more money at other venues at the casinos? I could see how a Wynn, MGM, or Caesar's app would be advantageous right now but could they pull them away once they could safely get people in the door?
A mix of what you mention and the unions fearing job losses. None of what they do makes sense. The sports betting apps require you go in and sign a couple of forms, hand over cash, and then if you lose you have to go back in there to put more money in or take out winnings. Oh and you have to bet from a smartphone, all betting must take place on a phone that can be located.

Compare that to other states which have legalized sports betting. In them you can sign up in about 2 minutes from anywhere in the world really and send money online to your account, in some you can use a credit card, in others you have to use a bank account or a service like Paypal. But its all done in a few minutes, and no requirement to go into any building, let alone a casino. So in about the time it takes for them to announce lineups and do a national anthem, you could have a funded and ready to go sports betting account in a number of states now. The only rule you have to follow is when you place a bet, you must be in that state. Don't need to be there to set it up, don't need to be there to check your balances and don't need to be there to ask for your winnings. And oh yeah, if you want to bet from your computer over an internet connected browser that generally works too, not required to do it just on a smartphone.

Basically Nevada is falling way behind everyone else in this game, but as long as the big casinos and the unions control things in the state things aren't going to change.
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