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We don't even have enough jobs for Americans. Why can't we just take a 5 year break from allowing others to move here? Seems like the smart thing to do. It's time to take care of Americans. I talk to many people around me who seem disillusioned that folks from other cultures are coming here in huge numbers and not embracing American principles (limited government etc.). What are your feelings?
Wait, your post is a little confusing. First you address unemployment, but then you address an assumed political ideology of immigrants, while at the same time insinuating that the democratic party's platform of more involved government is un-American? So are you upset about them taking jobs or that they tend to support the democratic party?
I can agree with you about legal immigrants taking jobs, and I fully agree legal immigration should be curbed during a recession. However your premise that the democratic party's ideology of a more involved government is un-American, I disagree with. The World War II era is viewed as one of the most "American" eras is the country's history, and most Americans believed in a more involved government at that time. This limited government ideology began dying out at the turn of the 20th century and didn't revive until Reagan.
it s all the same. usa or Europe. they both suck.
Spain guys are in street now. no job, nothing. I predict in 2017 another big crisis. crisis of broken gouvernement. .
you just need to see the debt counter of fox channel and you will see the debt is still going up.
to big to fail? it will. and it will be very bad.
it s time to be ready. move to a good cheap country. buy house... at least u have a place to crash when our dollars will worth peanut...
it s all the same. usa or Europe. they both suck.
Spain guys are in street now. no job, nothing. I predict in 2017 another big crisis. crisis of broken gouvernement. .
you just need to see the debt counter of fox channel and you will see the debt is still going up.
to big to fail? it will. and it will be very bad.
it s time to be ready. move to a good cheap country. buy house... at least u have a place to crash when our dollars will worth peanut...
You need to understand that I commonly hear from those that want to curtail all legal immigration, including for the spouses of U.S. citizens. I gave 22 years of service to this country. There shouldn't be any restriction to whom I choose to marry, and bring into this great country, as long as I financially support them.
I know you "live it", so you would hear more about spousal visas than I. Everyone I know (smaller group), that have a problem with visas agree with your statement "There shouldn't be any restriction to whom I choose to marry".
Personally, I think the problem is guest worker programs and illegals. IMO I believe that we do not need to artificially increase the number employees when we do not have enough jobs for 1.) current citizens and permeant residences ans 2.) the millennia generation is having difficult finding employment.
IMO, if we "truly" need these guest workers we should find a way to decrease need for the high percentage of workers in this country as "guests".
First off, hiring a college grad process need to change. For example, Intel has a rotation program that one needs a 3.0-3.5 GPA to get into. The get visas for college grads that have these GPAs instead of hiring someone with a 2.8-3.4 GPA from the same University. That doesn't sound like a short supply of workers. That sounds like an unnecessary weeding out process.
Secondly, I think that if we can't find "skilled workers" then companies should have to do what they have done for a very long time. TRAIN WORKERS! If we cut training programs, and our population ages, and companies lay off workers (and then don't hire them back claiming they lost their skills), OF COURSE there will be a shortage of skilled workers! IMO (if this is truly a problem and not hype), we should then have the "skilled" visa workers train the American workers and remove ourselves from the dependance of guest workers.
My field for example, in 2006 was throwing ridiculous bonuses and recruiting like crazy. In 2008, it was staying afloat but laying people off and not hiring college grads. MOST people did not get rehired and for the most part it did not grow, or shrink. In 2010/2011 it started to grow a little, followed by a big shrinkage. Since 2008, very few college grads we hire since 2008. I just graduated college, in 2013, and 90% of the job descriptions say "require 5 years of experience". Obviously, if no US companies hired college graduates (and laid off graduates of 2005-2008) in the last 5 years, there will be no one with 5 years of experience. IE the SKILL BUBBLE.
We need to take a sustainable approach (I'm not sure what that is). BUT, We cannot let 30million people in the US every time we need money to fuel our over regulating/over extending/over spending government.
Corporate Profits are an important factor in decisions taken by US Congress or Government. Defense Contractors will lobby in favor of Immigration Bill as they will make big profit.
I know you "live it", so you would hear more about spousal visas [realistically the non-immigrant K-3 is the only "spousal visa" of the system] than I. Everyone I know (smaller group), that have a problem with visas agree with your statement "There shouldn't be any restriction to whom I choose to marry"...
The topic may go over to debating same-sex marriages for immigration, so I also do want to state mine is "conventional", between a man and a beautiful, hard-working woman. These topics start the same way every time:
"All immigration needs to be stopped!"
"25% of all legal immigration is from marriages to U.S. citizens, and about 10% for the minor children of those marriages."
[Deep in thought, blinking eyes for twenty minutes, while internally trying to resolve the myth they had heard over and over, saying that spouses of U.S. citizens instantly became citizens themselves]
Well, those other kinds of immigration need to be stopped!"
"Why is that?"
"Because too many of those illegals are coming!"
"So why do you want to punish those that are doing it legally?"
[Generally this circular logic can't be resolved to them, and they lash out at you as a response]
So next point, I know there is an Illegal Immigration section that also is a catch-all to these sorts of debate. Can we drop the angle of illegal immigration if the discussion is here? I am interested in those that want to stop legal immigration based on its own merits (or perceived lack of them).
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