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Old 10-16-2013, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Earth
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An immigrant employee told us that her niece was told to go back to Mexico for criticizing government policies during some debate class. This girl is third generation American and never ever even visited Mexico. They didn't complaint to school because they don't want to make an issue out of it and think that girl needs better debating skills to get her point across without offending others in a heated discussion. I agree about need to work on debating skills but this is raciism and school should be notified. What's your opinion?
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:35 PM
 
Location: A little corner of paradise
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Hard to say. On 9/11, I had Mexican students tell me the US deserved to be attacked, and if we went to war, they were just going to return to Mexico until it was over. The response they got from me was, "If you feel that way, perhaps you should just go back now." Yes, it was inappropriate for me to say, but it was also a stupid thing for a student to say. Over the years, a good 98% of my students were Hispanic. For some of them, calling me "racist" was their only defense when they got in trouble. Without knowing the full context of the conversation, it's impossible to know if the teacher is truly racist.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:45 PM
 
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But girl is not Mexican, she is American by birth and has freedom of speech to criticize her government's policies and flaws of political system. Patriotism and blind faith in political system are two different things. Hispanic origin doesn't limit one's democratic rights.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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But girl is not Mexican, she is American by birth and has freedom of speech to criticize her government's policies and flaws of political system. Patriotism and blind faith in political system are two different things. Hispanic origin doesn't limit one's democratic rights.
Did the teacher say this to the girl? Because you didnt say that in the post.

And at th same time you are 100% correct. And as long as it was not a teacher because that would be inappropriate as a school employee anyone else has the right to tell the girl to "go back to Mexico"
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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Did the teacher say this to the girl? Because you didnt say that in the post.

And at th same time you are 100% correct. And as long as it was not a teacher because that would be inappropriate as a school employee anyone else has the right to tell the girl to "go back to Mexico"
According to her aunt, these were the words used by the teacher. This is what bothered her because teachers are supposed to be role models. I don't know their school's policy but there has to be some guideline.

Girl didn't come from Mexico and neither did her parents so she can't cruise back to Mexico and why should she? She wasn't comparing US and Mexico. It was a national policy debate.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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According to her aunt, these were the words used by the teacher. This is what bothered her because teachers are supposed to be role models. I don't know their school's policy but there has to be some guideline.

Girl didn't come from Mexico and neither did her parents so she can't cruise back to Mexico and why should she? She wasn't comparing US and Mexico. It was a national policy debate.
I agree that a teacher has no right to say that. They have to be held to higher standard.

My point is not about Mexico. My point is just like anyone can criticize the government anyone can criticize other people for no reason either. Saying dumb, racist stereotype things whether true or not is allowed.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:25 PM
 
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This needs to be brought to the principal's attention. If this teacher has underlying racial issues who knows how this reflects on mentoring students and grading.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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On 9/11, I had Mexican students tell me the US deserved to be attacked, and if we went to war, they were just going to return to Mexico until it was over.
Seriously? American-born ones?
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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Seriously? American-born ones?
Well, how does "MamaRed" know the students she mentions are Mexican? If they are why should they not go home until things calm down?
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood, DE and beautiful SXM!
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The parents need to meet with the teacher before even thinking about going to the principal. News flash: students are not always truthful. If it was indeed said, it could easily have been another student. If the teacher did say it, then by all means meet with the principal, but this will be very hard to prove. I am also tired of everything being considered racist. If this statement was made, maybe it was racist and maybe not. The aunt was not there and neither was the OP.
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