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Old 10-08-2011, 06:45 PM
 
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What the HELL happened to this neighborhood? I was there today for the first time in a long time and can't believe how it's gone downhill. Sad - very sad.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:48 PM
 
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What the HELL happened to this neighborhood? I was there today for the first time in a long time and can't believe how it's gone downhill. Sad - very sad.
I live around there and I have not noticed anything getting worse or going "downhill". Crime has not gone up, just the level of diversity.

It's 2011 and the world is changing: deal with it.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Selden New York
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Development of Future Ghettos 10 years ago witch are now Ghettos
Illigals Alliens witch Nobody Does Nothing about
Lack of Police

I could go on and on but i will stop here
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:03 PM
 
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What witch is that? The wicked witch of the west?
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Selden New York
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What witch is that? The wicked witch of the west?
No More like the Troll of the East
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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I live around there and I have not noticed anything getting worse or going "downhill". Crime has not gone up, just the level of diversity.

It's 2011 and the world is changing: deal with it.
You live around there - for how long? 10 years? 20 years? 30 years?
Yes - for most of us WHITE EUROPEAN AMERICANS - when a neighborhood becomes "diverse" that code for saying it's a minority-infested third-world ****-hole.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:53 PM
 
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You live around there - for how long? 10 years? 20 years? 30 years?
Yes - for most of us WHITE EUROPEAN AMERICANS - when a neighborhood becomes "diverse" that code for saying it's a minority-infested third-world ****-hole.
Maybe it might mean that in the Deep South somewhere but anybody with at least a High School education knows that diverse just means having a notable presence of more than one ethnic group.

I mean, IF you did live in this town then you can sell your house and move all you want(if you're even able to with the recession); it's totally your choice. But it's only a matter of time until the new location becomes diverse as well. If you change your attitude then you may have an easier time adjusting because that's the way society and this country as a whole is going neither you like it or not. Not trying to come off rude but just laying it out for you like it is.

btw: I lived here for 10-20 years, graduated from NB Schools (which has always had diversity and performed reasonably academically) and I came out fine. Get with the program!

[For the record- I only notice more diversity in the Woods Rd and Weeks Rd sections of North Babylon. The neighborhoods of the hamlet of North Babylon south of the Southern State Pkwy don't really have that noticeable of a minority presence; though even the woods rd+weeks rd sections are still overwhelmingly majority white.]

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Old 10-08-2011, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Mile Post 17, NY
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My street became a whole lot more "diverse" in the past three years, mainly due to a wealthy guy snatching up a few of the foreclosed split-level homes, and I guess renting them out sloppily. Put it this way, all the sudden a lot of unique cars/trucks with out of state plates began popping up, and I figure in some of these places, there's a different person in each bedroom.

Quiet evenings outside with a glass of red are now classed up with a fine chap two doors down blasting reggaeton out of his lowered late-80s Mitsu truck with North Carolina plates.

Embrace diversity.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:33 AM
 
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Maybe it might mean that in the Deep South somewhere but anybody with at least a High School education knows that diverse just means having a notable presence of more than one ethnic group.

I mean, IF you did live in this town then you can sell your house and move all you want(if you're even able to with the recession); it's totally your choice. But it's only a matter of time until the new location becomes diverse as well. If you change your attitude then you may have an easier time adjusting because that's the way society and this country as a whole is going neither you like it or not. Not trying to come off rude but just laying it out for you like it is.

btw: I lived here for 10-20 years, graduated from NB Schools (which has always had diversity and performed reasonably academically) and I came out fine. Get with the program!

[For the record- I only notice more diversity in the Woods Rd and Weeks Rd sections of North Babylon. The neighborhoods of the hamlet of North Babylon south of the Southern State Pkwy don't really have that noticeable of a minority presence; though even the woods rd+weeks rd sections are still overwhelmingly majority white.]
You don't have to go to the South to find segregation - you LIVE in one of the most segregated areas in the country:
New study ranks Long Island 7th most segregated among 50 major metro regions. « CBS New York

Now - despite what the liberal, progressive government employees taught you in the government-run school system you attended - most people desire to live among people with the same cultural values and different races have different cultural values. Additionally, most people desire to live among people who are from the same socioeconomic class. Combine these two desires and you have segregation - and there's nothing wrong with it a all. Get use to it - it's not likely to change anytime soon.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:56 AM
 
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You don't have to go to the South to find segregation - you LIVE in one of the most segregated areas in the country:
New study ranks Long Island 7th most segregated among 50 major metro regions. « CBS New York

Now - despite what the liberal, progressive government employees taught you in the government-run school system you attended - most people desire to live among people with the same cultural values and different races have different cultural values. Additionally, most people desire to live among people who are from the same socioeconomic class. Combine these two desires and you have segregation - and there's nothing wrong with it a all. Get use to it - it's not likely to change anytime soon.
That's obviously true, most people do desire to live around their own culture; that's nothing new. My point was that most places are gradually becoming diverse even where you wouldn't expect it. Back even 40 years ago, a lot of people didn't expect LI to become nearly as diverse as it is now, but look at LI now. So you can run but you can't hide. Again, i'm not even saying I like or dislike diversity, i'm just saying that you and your conservative right wing friends[since you brought up politics] should get used to it or move to a trailer park down in West Virginia or Nebraska and wait until even that eventually becomes diverse.

And even if you do want to argue socioeconomic status. The gap between minority income and white income is gradually becoming smaller as the years go on; so one of your self-proclaimed leading causes of segregation will no longer exist/significantly minimize. Some minority groups have even surpassed Whites in income. In the Town of Babylon (minus Wyandanch), the gap between white+black income is MUCH smaller than in the rest of the country. Let me provide a source for that;
http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2...f=censusbureau
[^^ If you click on 'view more maps then income' and search the town of babylon, you can see that most people in the town of babylon area are middle-working class and in the same "socioeconomic" category as each other so socioeconomic status isn't even a factor.]

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