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Old 02-18-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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This topic has been beaten to death in so many threads. The answer is a combination of bad geography, poor business infrastructure, logistics and other high costs of doing business. Add to that LI's past heavy dependence on manufacturing, real estate and nothing else (except for health services in the north shore) which led to complacency.

Now it's too late. There are fewer big companies to attract and NYC is pulling out the red carpet to lure whatever little is left.

Westchester's job market is not running on all cylinders either. But it was not as dependent on manufacturing as LI was. It also had the benefit of history - IBM and GE just happened to be there. But now its job market is shrinking and/or becoming increasingly dependent on NYC. The decline just has not happened at the same pace and the same magnitude as LI.
LI needs some casinos....or a state prison
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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So what is it about Nassau and Suffolk that they can't attract jobs in your opinion?
I think the reason why LI doesn't attract much business is because there is no small cities with >50k population. Westchester has Yonkers, New Rochelle, and White Plains. North Jersey has Newark, Jersey City, and Hoboken. Southern Connecticut has Stamford and Bridgeport.

Civil sector jobs are the largest employer on LI. North Shore-LIJ is the largest private employer, which is more of a "service" industry since it's a non-profit hospital system. In order to find good private sector jobs you usually have to commute to NYC.

I believe if there were more private business on LI, taxes would be lower.
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Old 02-18-2014, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Since you brought it up, here are the top ten employers in Brookhaven:

# Employer # of Employees Location
1 Stony Brook University 13,623 Stony Brook
2 Internal Revenue Service 3,332 Holtsville
3 Sachem School District 3,100 Holbrook
4 Brookhaven National Laboratory 2,500 Upton
5 John T. Mather Memorial Hospital 2,047 Port Jefferson
6 Brookhaven Memorial Hospital Medical Center 2,030 East Patchogue
7 St. Charles Hospital 1,520 Port Jefferson
8 Three Village Central School District 1,454 East Setauket
9 Verizon 1,440 Patchogue
10 William Floyd School District 1,300 Mastic Beach

I didn't bother with the other 7 as they weren't public school district related. I just found it interesting that 3 school districts comprised some of the top ten employers in Brookhaven.
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Old 02-18-2014, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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If anybody should be complaining, its NYC. Our commercial tax base supports the entire state, and without it, New York State would resemble South Dakota.


If you were to post what you've written (about NYC's commercial tax base supporting the entire state) on the general NYS board, you're going to hear a lot of caterwauling. Upstate sees it as NYC sucking the support out of them
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:23 AM
 
Location: CT
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If anybody should be complaining, its NYC. Our commercial tax base supports the entire state, and without it, New York State would resemble South Dakota.
Well since South Dakota is doing very VERY well, I'm not sure what your point is. Is it a good thing? Your tone suggests otherwise. Their current economic state is 16 out of 50 and their economic outlook is ranked 3rd.
http://www.alec.org/wp-content/uploads/SD.pdf

NY current economy is ranked 37 with an out look at 2nd to LAST (49).
http://www.alec.org/wp-content/uploads/NY.pdf

The empire is state is not quite the empire it used to be. Although you do have an emperor.

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Old 02-19-2014, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Wallens Ridge
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If anybody should be complaining, its NYC. Our commercial tax base supports the entire state, and without it, New York State would resemble South Dakota.
Is that a bad thing?

Set it in stone! South Dakota is 2013 Top State for Business
Set it in stone! South Dakota is 2013 Top State for Business

https://bfm.sd.gov/econ/current.pdf


How Citibank Made South Dakota the Top State in the U.S. for BusinessLittle South Dakota (pop. 833,000) holds $2.5 trillion in bank assets—more than any other state. Here's why.

How Citibank Made South Dakota the Top State in the U.S. for Business - NationalJournal.com

America's Next Boom Town: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
America's Next Boom Town: Sioux Falls, South Dakota - Amy Sullivan - The Atlantic

cost of living:
Cost of Living Annual Average 2013

You guys could only wish L.I. and the tri-sate area was run like South Dakota..taxes would be a 1/3 of what your paying!
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:06 AM
 
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I also think cracking down on illegal rentals needs to happen. There is too much of a tax burden for anyone to be able to send their kids to public school without paying their share of taxes.
Then you need to allow more legal and affordable rentals. Everyone needs a place to live.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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I believe Citibank was chartered in south Dakota as long as I remember
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Old 02-19-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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Well since South Dakota is doing very VERY well, I'm not sure what your point is. Is it a good thing? Your tone suggests otherwise. Their current economic state is 16 out of 50 and their economic outlook is ranked 3rd.
http://www.alec.org/wp-content/uploads/SD.pdf

NY current economy is ranked 37 with an out look at 2nd to LAST (49).
http://www.alec.org/wp-content/uploads/NY.pdf

The empire is state is not quite the empire it used to be. Although you do have an emperor.
I forgot that their economy is booming due to the oil. I should have picked a crappier state.
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Old 02-19-2014, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If they're not in college I fail to see how coddling them till their in their late 20's is good for them to learn how to...be an adult. It's about self responsibility and personal growth, not just social prosperity.

Anyway, there is no doubt the ludicrous cost of living that is Long Island is helping anyone overcome that burden.
After college (or a few years after their 1st full time job out of school) is a different story and I agree about self-responsibility at that point. They have the means.

So many leave their parents' at 18 all over the country and all they think about is freedom (and what you mention about dating). Sink or swim - too many sink but at least they weren't "coddled". Wrong priorities.
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