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Old 10-27-2020, 05:36 AM
 
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In the two months since Suffolk school districts have reopened (hybrid learning and otherwise) we have not seen an increase of Covid deaths (notwithstanding predictions to the contrary).

Two months ago the argument against Suffolk schools fully reopening went along the lines of acknowledging kids are highly unlikely to have severe issues with Covid, but they could pass it on to more vulnerable school staff and pass it on to more vulnerable members of the community. And those populations would die. In a pandemic! With no vaccine!

Suffolk reports a total of 18 residents (a continuing downward trend!) have died in the last two months with Covid. https://suffolkcountyny.gov/Departme.../295064/page/1

Kids have been back to school (hybrid and otherwise) for the last two months in Suffolk.

It may be that properly run schools are not necessarily common vectors for Covid-spread and it may be that school kids are not spreading it to elderly folks with serious preexisting conditions.

While some Suffolk districts are essentially full time with the younger kids, a general return to school for all Suffolk kids may be warranted (if one looks at the data and science here in Suffolk). Reduced learning (hitting the poorest kids hardest) is a byproduct of the current practice.

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Old 10-27-2020, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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What does the teacher's union say and what do the teachers say? If they are not comfortable and refuse to return to the classroom you are spitting into a wind that is blowing in your direction.
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Old 10-27-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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What does the teacher's union say and what do the teachers say? If they are not comfortable and refuse to return to the classroom you are spitting into a wind that is blowing in your direction.
They don't have a leg to stand on, plenty of districts on LI are open full time.
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Old 10-27-2020, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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They don't have a leg to stand on, plenty of districts on LI are open full time.
All they need is one and some statistics.
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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What does the teacher's union say and what do the teachers say? If they are not comfortable and refuse to return to the classroom you are spitting into a wind that is blowing in your direction.
If you extrapolate the general population, how many teachers are (1) older, (2) obese, (3) have some other underlying condition known to be a factor for COVID-19?

That's what will drive the union conversation.

In reality, what should happen is that the teachers least at risk should go back to the classroom, and those most at risk should either retire (if they are eligible) or seek one of the available online/remote learning slots.

The answer isn't to allow them to hide in a hold until/unless/before a vaccine AND a zero death rate occurs.

My kids are in their 3rd week of 5 days a week in class learning after staging from remote to 1 day a week to 2 days a week. They wear a mask all day and there are controls and extra cleaning in place.

So far so good, but I expect at some point between now and end of the school year that at least 1-2x they will need to do remote learning whenever there's more than a handful of new cases in their school.

Over the past 2 weeks both the high school and middle school have had cases, but when you consider across the whole district of 110,000 students, teachers and staff there have been 70 confirmed cases this isn't bad.
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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If you extrapolate the general population, how many teachers are (1) older, (2) obese, (3) have some other underlying condition known to be a factor for COVID-19?

That's what will drive the union conversation.

In reality, what should happen is that the teachers least at risk should go back to the classroom, and those most at risk should either retire (if they are eligible) or seek one of the available online/remote learning slots.

The answer isn't to allow them to hide in a hold until/unless/before a vaccine AND a zero death rate occurs.

My kids are in their 3rd week of 5 days a week in class learning after staging from remote to 1 day a week to 2 days a week. They wear a mask all day and there are controls and extra cleaning in place.

So far so good, but I expect at some point between now and end of the school year that at least 1-2x they will need to do remote learning whenever there's more than a handful of new cases in their school.

Over the past 2 weeks both the high school and middle school have had cases, but when you consider across the whole district of 110,000 students, teachers and staff there have been 70 confirmed cases this isn't bad.
Now see, you have a sensible plan, but that will never fly because they act as a unit and what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Old 10-27-2020, 01:39 PM
 
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Here in Suffolk essentially all the teachers/bldg admins /staffs have been back full time for two months (some kids are full time, some kids are hybrid, and some kids have personally opted for full remote). My point was, given the data and science here in Suffolk, the kids should all be back full time.
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Old 10-27-2020, 01:40 PM
 
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Lol @ monstermagnet

Even though you did the right thing by deleting it, every word was true
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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Here in Suffolk essentially all the teachers/bldg admins /staffs have been back full time for two months (some kids are full time, some kids are hybrid, and some kids have personally opted for full remote). My point was, given the data and science here in Suffolk, the kids should all be back full time.
Or at least provide the option. Do parents have a choice for full time vs remote?
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:27 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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We have the NCAE here in NC (pseudo union) fear mongering all the teachers. I wonder if we will ever get back. THey JUST brought back K-3 this week, all the kids are divided into 3 groups and will get about 8 days each before Christmas. Whoop dee do. High school home till January and we will see if they go back at all. My 11th grader doesn't even want to go back at this point. She said all the a$$hole kids will be coughing on each other LOL.
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