NYS passes new strict gun laws (buyers, military, law)
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If you think it's "easy to buy a gun" Try going into a gun shop and ask about the gun buying process. You'll get an education and actually know something about what you are speaking about.
Yes it takes months to get a handgun in NYS not true for rifles and certainly not true for guns pouring into NY from states with weak gun laws.
Yes it takes months to get a handgun in NYS not true for rifles and certainly not true for guns pouring into NY from states with weak gun laws.
You perpetuate false political talking points.
In what state do "weak laws" allow a NY resident to legally purchase a handgun?
(spoiler alert: none)
In what state do "weak laws" allow a NY resident to purchase a long gun that is not legal to own in NY?
(spoiler alert: none. Most out-of-state shops will not sell ANY gun directly to a NY resident, even where legal to do so.)
The only way a handgun gun comes into NY legally is through an FFL transfer. Even if you find the rare dealer who will sell a long gun to a NY resident, there is still a required background check involved (thus, the same "strong" gun laws as would apply in NY).
If a gun comes into NY illegally, it was almost certainly acquired illegally.
I'm sure there is the rare exception to this rule, but "pouring in" is an outright lie designed to scare the uninformed.
edited to add: and it doesn't take "months" to get a handgun in NYS. On LI it only takes a few trips back and forth the police HQ. It can be done in one day, or even a few hours.
In what state do "weak laws" allow a NY resident to legally purchase a handgun?
(spoiler alert: none)
In what state do "weak laws" allow a NY resident to purchase a long gun that is not legal to own in NY?
(spoiler alert: none. Most out-of-state shops will not sell ANY gun directly to a NY resident, even where legal to do so.)
The only way a handgun gun comes into NY legally is through an FFL transfer. Even if you find the rare dealer who will sell a long gun to a NY resident, there is still a required background check involved (thus, the same "strong" gun laws as would apply in NY).
If a gun comes into NY illegally, it was almost certainly acquired illegally.
I'm sure there is the rare exception to this rule, but "pouring in" is an outright lie designed to scare the uninformed.
edited to add: and it doesn't take "months" to get a handgun in NYS. On LI it only takes a few trips back and forth the police HQ. It can be done in one day, or even a few hours.
Wrong as usual, obviously I was speaking to illegal guns coming to NY from states with weak gun laws like Georgia where you can just walk into a pawn shop and walk out with a handgun. So spare me your spoiler alerts.
If you don't like the term pouring in then come up with your own definition and educate yourself on illegal guns coming into NYS and NYC.
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NEW YORK - The guns are here in New York City and they keep coming.
"90% of these guns don't come from New York. They come along I-95 — they come from states with lax gun laws," New York Attorney General Letitia James said at a recent gun buyback event in Queens.
It doesn't take months to get a handgun in permit in Nassau, really. Background checks, fingerprinting, cosigners can just done in a few hours, this I have to see because it takes months or over a year.
Perhaps off the topic and not to diminish the threat, but when was the last time a rifle was used in a school shooting here on Long Island?
(Surely local leaders weigh the threat when considering, for example, placing armed guards in the schools or waiting periods for rifles.)
I don't recall a school shooting with a rifle on LI but it most certainly happens nationwide and not just in schools, we had several shootings with rifles most recently the supermarket in Buffalo. I don't understand why anyone would need an AR-15 let alone an 18year old.
Wrong as usual, obviously I was speaking to illegal guns coming to NY from states with weak gun laws like Georgia where you can just walk into a pawn shop and walk out with a handgun. So spare me your spoiler alerts.
It amazes me how people totally ignore the facts.
It is illegal for a NY resident to walk into a store in GA (or any other state) and walk out with a handgun. This is federal law. The only way to purchase a handgun in another state is to have it shipped to a FFL in NY.
It takes all of 2 seconds to look this up on your own. You need to stop listening to the political BS.
Go ahead and try to buy a handgun in a GA shop. They won't sell it to you. If they do, the shop and you will be guilty of violating federal law.
Rather than quote a sensationalized news outlet, how about the ATF (the federal agency tasked with enforcing these interstate issues).
Because the news and politicians are NEVER guilty of hyperbole.
If a handgun comes into NY illegally from the "pipeline" it was obtained illegally in the other state.
It's all political word games. It's like saying cocaine gets to NY because of weak drug laws in Florida... or Fentenayl arrives in NY because of weak drug laws in TX. Sure it's possible some illegal guns come to NY from GA or VA... but that is NOT because they were legally obtained there.
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It doesn't take months to get a handgun in permit in Nassau, really. Background checks, fingerprinting, cosigners can just done in a few hours, this I have to see because it takes months or over a year.
Permit is not the same as purchase. You wrote purchase, which is what I responded to.
Not sure how long the wait is in Nassau right now, but it is months.
Suffolk is still running 18 months to 2 years.
Many upstate counties will issue a permit in two weeks or less.
Wait times (and license restrictions) are based on political factors and vary widely throughout the state.
Once you have a pistol permit in NY, you can purchase and receive a pistol as soon as the same day.
Permit is not the same as purchase. You wrote purchase, which is what I responded to.
Not sure how long the wait is in Nassau right now, but it is months.
Suffolk is still running 18 months to 2 years.
Many upstate counties will issue a permit in two weeks or less.
Wait times (and license restrictions) are based on political factors and vary widely throughout the state.
Once you have a pistol permit in NY, you can purchase and receive a pistol as soon as the same day.
To be clear - up above, you are referring to wait times to obtain a permit?
In NY can a Nassau County resident obtain a permit in another county?
Does each NY county handle it differently? I see references to getting a fingerprint date in Nassau but in Suffolk they did fingerprinting when the candidate brought his application papers and fee to the Sheriff's office.
There's no real evidence that the number of guns in an area "deters" crime in any meaningful way, and I say that as a staunch, single-issue gun rights voter.
Having a gun might make you as an individual more safe (or feel more safe), but it doesn't seem to have any real statistical impact on the population in general.
I have a vacation cabin deep in the Vermont woods. One day I was home with my daughter when someone knocked on the door. I looked out the glass. There stood two tweakers, all nervous looking and insisting my red house was a farm and they were to meet someone there. I told them it wasn't and to head back out to the main road to ask the gas station guy if he knew of that farm. They started getting agitated and closer to the door.
I had a rifle down at my side. I raised it and aimed it at the door. Next, I gave them a choice: get back in their car and get the hell out of there *or* guess who I would shoot first. They opted to leave.
In a rural area where VSP or EMS takes 15 minutes to respond on a good day, having a gun makes a difference. Imposing urban/suburban gun laws in rural areas is ridiculous.
It is illegal for a NY resident to walk into a store in GA (or any other state) and walk out with a handgun. This is federal law. The only way to purchase a handgun in another state is to have it shipped to a FFL in NY.
It takes all of 2 seconds to look this up on your own. You need to stop listening to the political BS.
Go ahead and try to buy a handgun in a GA shop. They won't sell it to you. If they do, the shop and you will be guilty of violating federal law.
Rather than quote a sensationalized news outlet, how about the ATF (the federal agency tasked with enforcing these interstate issues).
Those facts are so pesky, aren't they?
I could not just walk out of my widowed mother's Florida house with my late father's handgun. As a NYS resident, someone else would have had to take it to a gun shop in Florida to arrange transport of the gun to an FFL in NYS. My husband has the permit, so it would be his to retrieve and bring to Yaphank.
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