Does LA feel like the 2nd biggest city in America to you? (Los Angeles: apartment, crime rates)

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by Patrolman

Crime-wise, L.A seems HUGE.

Los Angeles is one of the safest big cities in America:

Los Angeles crime rate down 2 percent in 2012 | abc7.com

[BarcelonaFan]

Originally Posted by Patrolman

Crime-wise, L.A seems HUGE.

LA is safe relative to it's size. Memphis is more crime ridden than LA.

[iNviNciBL3]

Chicago feels bigger, Los Angeles feels more important....

Plus Chicagoans have this insecurities about LA and Angelenos seem like they don't know Chicago exist.

[popnet]

How LA metro sprawls and the land area it covers, you could call NYC, Philliy, Bmore and DC as one and well with over 50 million people. In that scenario 18 mill of LA metro isn't that shabby.

Wow, 50 million... that's more than the entire state of California!

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by popnet

How LA metro sprawls and the land area it covers, you could call NYC, Philliy, Bmore and DC as one and well with over 50 million people. In that scenario 18 mill of LA metro isn't that shabby.

Wow, 50 million... that's more than the entire state of California!

Lmao, the New York urbanized area by itself covers twice the land area of LA's (3450 sq miles vs 1780).

http://m.la.curbed.com/archives/2012..._in_the_us.php

Try again.

[Patrolman]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

Los Angeles is one of the safest big cities in America:

Los Angeles crime rate down 2 percent in 2012 | abc7.com

You should spend a 12-hour shift in a patrol car with me. You'll think differently.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by Patrolman

You should spend a 12-hour shift in a patrol car with me. You'll think differently.

Imagine if you worked in a city with an even worse crime rate. Which is MOST large American cities. It doesn't make much sense singling out crime in LA without acknowledging crime in America.

[HarryKerryJr]

We just have the best of both worlds. We are massive. LA County (the largest County in the nations) has a population larger than 40 states, and a metropolitan population larger than 46 states, and YES, it certainly feels like it too often, particular if you travel throughout the city and throughout the county and beyond: IT NEVER ENDS! The Los Angeles metro area is now MORE dense than the NYC metro (tri-state) area. Further or density is greater than most US cites, BUT, there are many, many places in which it doesn't feel as such, and that is one of the great things about the city and the area. While it seems everyone is on the freeways, roads or in line at the DMV, for a movie, or at the supermarket, we don't have, and planned for it that way, the rat upon rat housing and density of Manhattan. Thankfully, we lack the many 5th floor walk-ups with no HVAC, but with plenty of cockroaches in those 300 sq ft. "train design" (walk through the bathroom to get to the kitchen and through the bedroom to get to the . . . ) and with the rats who routinely cover and feast upon the heaps of garbage just left out on the steps of the apartments for pick-up, nor does it take hours to get from upper to lower Manhattan. Manhattan is just too dense for its own good. The rest of the tri-state area, especially Connecticut, can be quite lovely (or ugly, just like any place on the earth).

One can partake of whatever Hollywood, West Hollywood have to offer with its impossible parking, traffic, too many people, yet retire to the peace and quiet of Hancock Park just a few miles away when the night is over and one can still walk to Wilshire & Western. Keep in mind that there are streets and places in Manhattan that can have that peace and quite patch, as well, yet, just blocks away for the action.

I think one get the true impression of what a massive city-state this is when they venture to other parts of the city take in the immensity of spookiness of the Harbor, the massive other woldness of the Wimington and neighboring petroleum refineries, the endless industry and slaughter houses and bulk foods companies of neighboring Commerce, the morass of the Valley and scale of South LA while crossing the rive to the East side and venturing to appreciate the compactness of the northeast section.

Meanwhile, the County offer Long Beach, a city just a little smaller than Seattle (it was actually a bit larger than Seattle before that city saw some growth the last few decades) with its own Opera and symphony and the 2nd largest port, after Los Angeles, in the nation. Yes, if you get around you just find this place to be its own PLANET.

We don't really like crowds here. We find Times Square to be a horrid tourist trap, (much like many view Hollwood Blvd.) over crowded streets and sidewalks to be too noisy and filthy, and even find a lot street in Manhattan with NOT many people or cars at all. We do prefer fewer crowds than we do today, but if we want a taste of it, it can be had in several districts through the city and the county, but we can always return to our quite 2 bedroom apt with modern amenities just a mile or two away. In Manhattan, people have to take the LIRR and MNRR to get out of the madness and, perhaps, a little too low of density. Here, we just need to walk a few blocks to escape it. That's a much better, more livable situation, IMHO. I concede that there are those who so detest the city of Los Angeles as an unattractive place to live that they, like some NY Tri-state residents, take their own commuter rail (Metrolink) to suburbs, including the very beautiful south OC area. But that is their preference. However, even Metrolink can be crowded, as well, but at least they get to their beloved suburbs at the end of the day.

[HarryKerryJr]

Originally Posted by Patrolman

You should spend a 12-hour shift in a patrol car with me. You'll think differently.

That's because your job takes you to all the crime and problems. A lot like how some police officers think every human being is a criminal and a liar only because those are the only people with whom they come in contact. Or the effect of those poor deputies who have spent too much time working in the jails, and then cop the attitude that every citizen is an inmate. Too many LASD deputies are barely able to conceal their latent hostility for the pubic whom they serve. It's as if the years in the jails has so scared them that they now have a mental illness. I know that the Supes and Bacca are now trying to work on this too much time in the jails problem and get deputies out to patrol work sooner or even right away with no time in the jails. I think we'll an improvement and decrease in the latent hostility in some deputies.

I think the real statement is, spend some time as a citizen with the daily routines in the city, and you will see a difference in some of the worst violent crimes, but too many mentals as the law allow them to be out and about and shoving old ladies into tracks of LRT. A few months ago, one of the big 3 TV news stations went around the city, and especially the highest crime and gang ridden ones and asked residents if they feel safer or were aware of any difference in crime in their neighborhood as the crime statistics suggest. The answer from ALL who was an unqualified YES, even praising the LAPD for its efforts. So, I don't think we are making up the numbers like they are in New York, at least not yet.

Of course, none of this means that there are not problems. In fact, I do notice MORE of the smaller things going unaddressed by the LAPD, and I don't like that, but that may be the call from the command staff who feel it is a compromise they can live with.

[the Instigator]

The CBD might not be the most impressive but that's where a lot of other cities end, LA keeps going and going and going, and btw not all of that is suburbia, go west and the bustling city feel will take you all the way to the ocean. This city is a monster, for a non third world megacity it's unique in its layout.