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Old 04-05-2018, 10:38 PM
 
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These camps harbor and spread communicable diseases....another reason police need to enforce the NO CAMPING on public land Penal Codes.

Homeless people defecating on LA streets fuels horror hepatitis outbreak
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Old 04-05-2018, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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These camps harbor and spread communicable diseases....another reason police need to enforce the NO CAMPING on public land Penal Codes.

Homeless people defecating on LA streets fuels horror hepatitis outbreak
Should be common sense .

But we are talking about L.A here.
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Old 04-05-2018, 10:54 PM
 
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Should be common sense .

But we are talking about L.A here.
Same lack of common sense is here in the Bay Area as well. LA is not alone in that respect.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:20 AM
 
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These camps harbor and spread communicable diseases....another reason police need to enforce the NO CAMPING on public land Penal Codes.

Homeless people defecating on LA streets fuels horror hepatitis outbreak
What ever, maybe more tax cuts will help.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:27 AM
 
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You obviously are unaware of how many flavors of communism there have been. Guess what? All of them tasted like crap.

Norway? Socialist, not communist and it's a nation with few people and lots of resources (oil) from which they distribute the revenue amongst that small group. It is not a major military power but rather depends on power projection from the United States lest the aggressive Russians come and take them over. Recent military spending increases from Oslo won't change that fact. They have suffered cyber attacks from Russia and threats from submarines, among other things.
They are obviously not a nuclear power then. You don’t have to spend what the USA does to have an effective deterrence military. There is so much graft in military contracting it’s not even funny

I’m sure cern would let them use their collider to make plutonium or they could build there own to make there own nukes. 100 nuke cruise missels should keep every one around them polite and cordial.
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Old 04-06-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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Too bad if we have to wait until the commit MORE crimes ! But one way or another and as soon as possible - VOTE !
One of dirty Jerry's army getting ready to destroy more lives and run money down the left wing toilet ( which is all dirty jerry and his followers have ever done and will ever do) the lefties actually WANT people like THIS to wander around till something bad happens!! There's lots of 'em - you've seen em- they don't do nice things if they do anything at all... too bad we could not have gotten him off the street ASAP and given him some help or at least a safe environment- oh well, the dems are running this show for now.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/...d-sf-shooting/

Ohhh dirty jerry; dirty, dirty jerry...
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Old 04-06-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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Too bad if we have to wait until the commit MORE crimes ! But one way or another and as soon as possible - VOTE !
One of dirty Jerry's army getting ready to destroy more lives and run money down the left wing toilet ( which is all dirty jerry and his followers have ever done and will ever do) the lefties actually WANT people like THIS to wander around till something bad happens!! There's lots of 'em - you've seen em- they don't do nice things if they do anything at all... too bad we could not have gotten him off the street ASAP and given him some help or at least a safe environment- oh well, the dems are running this show for now.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/...d-sf-shooting/

Ohhh dirty jerry; dirty, dirty jerry...
Do you not understand that a transient is a person who refuses to provide the police with their address? You can't infer that they are homeless simply because more often than not they aren't.
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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Do you not understand that a transient is a person who refuses to provide the police with their address? You can't infer that they are homeless simply because more often than not they aren't.
A transient is a person without a permanent address.

A person refusing to give the police their address is simply a person unwilling to cooperate with the police....it has nothing to do with being a transient.

It would be nice if folks could hold a civil discussion about this situation.

Was the homeless situation as bad when mental institutions were housing the ones who presented with serious mental issues and or drug addictions?

Mental disorders keep thousands of homeless on streets

It's clear that the mental institutions were at one time a solution that was working to keep the homeless with mental disorders off of the streets.

Creating a Science of Homelessness During the Reagan Era
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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A transient is a person without a permanent address.
A person refusing to give the police their address is simply a person unwilling to cooperate with the police....it has nothing to do with being a transient.
why quibble over this? If a person is arrested and does not want the Police to know where they live they either refuse to tell them or state that they have no address.
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Was homeless as bad when mental institutions were housing the ones who show serious mental issues and or drug addicts? Mental disorders keep thousands of homeless on streets
Did you read your own article?
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"Two strategies gaining favor in treating the homeless who are mentally ill are the "Housing First" approach, which puts homeless individuals into housing first, then treats their ailments, and permanent-supportive housing, which couples housing with counseling and access to meds. The initiatives are rapidly moving the mentally ill off the streets and saving the country tens of millions of dollars each year in homeless costs."
Putting people in mental hospitals who do not pose a danger to themself or others is unconstitutional please try to keep that in mind before you suggest confinement in mental hospitals as an approach to managing the homeless.
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It's clear that the mental institutions were at one time a solution that was working to keep the homeless with mental disorders off of the streets. Creating a Science of Homelessness During the Reagan Era
You should have read the entire article:

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"The lack of early federal support to address the structural causes of homelessness, however, unwittingly led to a disproportionate policy focus on the most physically and mentally disabled minority of the homeless population. The blame for this fragmented approach to homelessness belongs not primarily on the NIMH or the NIAAA but on the larger political context in which they operated. The parameters of acceptable research were highly circumscribed by Reagan administration officials, who clung to a historically rooted ideological belief that homelessness resulted mainly from individual character flaws....The unwavering belief of many mental health experts that deinstitutionalization was the sole cause of homelessness, along with the long legacy of sociological research that focused on the individual and cultural pathology of the poor rather than on the economic and political causes of poverty, formed the ideological bedrock for this individualization of a structural problem. Moreover, the impact of this distortion continues to be felt today, as the homeless crisis of the 1980s lingers into the second decade of the 21st century."
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Old 04-06-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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why quibble over this? If a person is arrested and does not want the Police to know where they live they either refuse to tell them or state that they have no address.
There was no quibble. You stated something that was not accurate.
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Putting people in mental hospitals who do not pose a danger to themself or others is unconstitutional please try to keep that in mind before you suggest confinement in mental hospitals as an approach to managing the homeless.
You need to stop ascribing to me things that I did not say. Every time I mention mental institutions for the homeless I am strictly referring to the 1000's that are mentally ill and addicted to drugs. Typically those two traits go hand in hand as you should know if you know anything about the homeless.

No need to continue repeating the same thing over and over. You and I are talking about homeless people with different needs and different behaviors.

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