Why so many covid 19 cases and deaths in LA County (Los Angeles: metropolitan, business)

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Hospitalizations just went up a bit. I suspect spread from students as the reason.

Agreed. The collegiate system loves students from abroad, because they pay more. And we're not screening people coming here by requiring a Covid test...what could possibly go wrong...hooray for never ending variants...thanks for that...

[skyway31]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

"Whatever the numbers, scientists are increasingly curious about how and why COVID hits some people hard but seems to skip others. So I called up Los Angeles County Department of Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer, who has spearheaded the county’s pandemic response and has been vilified for her caution-first approach. I thought I was special, someone worthy of a case study.

“I’m not really that surprised,” Ferrer told me over the phone. “There’s still a couple of million people in L.A. County who haven’t contracted it yet. There are people who have even been asymptomatic, and that could’ve been you.”

“I can tell you what you’ve done — you’ve been wearing a mask, and a good one,” she said. “We’ve been in such a fight about the mask, but most of the people who have told me they haven’t received COVID tell me they’ve been wearing a mask.

“You’ve had the good fortune that you haven’t been in a place, or went to a gathering where there was someone who was very infectious,” Ferrer continued....

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ovid-free-club

I've never tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, and I've never been sick enough to consider being tested for it (though I've tested a handful of times at the request of others). And I can assure you I've not been a mask freak; I've traveled, partied, and spent about 180 days teaching ~30 students per period in a classroom. I stopped masking before the mandate was lifted in school (and after I saw Newsom, Garcetti etc unmkased at packed football stadiums). So, no, non-medical doctor Ferrer is not correct.

[skyway31]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Agreed. The collegiate system loves students from abroad, because they pay more. And we're not screening people coming here by requiring a Covid test...what could possibly go wrong...hooray for never ending variants...thanks for that...

This is correct. It is also a primary justification for the end to disciplinary measures.

Deeply uncomfortable truth: California was locking its citizens up, closed businesses and had a mask mandate in place in December of 2020/January 2021. Cases SKYROCKETED, WHILE those measures were in place. Presently, the variants circulating are thoughr to be something like EIGHTEEN times MORE transmissible than what was circulating at the time of the astronomical case increase in the aforementioned time period. If the disciplinary measures didn't prevent the huge surge then, what is to make you think they'd stop it now, with variants eighteen times as transmissible?

Bottom line: those still clamoring for disciplinary mandates are either: 1) neurotic, 2) communists, 3) both.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by skyway31

This is correct. It is also a primary justification for the end to disciplinary measures.

Deeply uncomfortable truth: California was locking its citizens up, closed businesses and had a mask mandate in place in December of 2020/January 2021. Cases SKYROCKETED, WHILE those measures were in place. Presently, the variants circulating are thoughr to be something like EIGHTEEN times MORE transmissible than what was circulating at the time of the astronomical case increase in the aforementioned time period. If the disciplinary measures didn't prevent the huge surge then, what is to make you think they'd stop it now, with variants eighteen times as transmissible?

Bottom line: those still clamoring for disciplinary mandates are either: 1) neurotic, 2) communists, 3) both.

Well stated. And to this day, I'm angry that, as a matter of civic responsibility, I went along with all the guidelines. All of them -- what a sucker. I gave up my daily walks, didn't go out without a mask and only if it was for necessities, and stayed 6' away from everybody. And in the meantime, people could travel here from anywhere on this planet, disembarking at LAX and bringing the latest variants here. Thanks for that...

[skyway31]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Well stated. And to this day, I'm angry that, as a matter of civic responsibility, I went along with all the guidelines. All of them -- what a sucker. I gave up my daily walks, didn't go out without a mask and only if it was for necessities, and stayed 6' away from everybody. And in the meantime, people could travel here from anywhere on this planet, disembarking at LAX and bringing the latest variants here. Thanks for that...

You’re a sucker because you believed that the guidelines were made as part of simple, good-faith, straightforward scientific reasoning. Admittedly, you SHOULD have been correct. Perhaps for much of our nation’s history you WOULD have been correct. But, sadly, that is no longer the case.

[CA4Now]

"The Omicron coronavirus variant killed Angelenos at a higher rate than both the flu and car crashes during the early part of 2022, according to county health officials.

An analysis of death certificates from January to April found that there were 31.8 deaths from COVID-19 for every 100,000 residents of all ages in Los Angeles County. That’s nine times the comparable rate for motor vehicle deaths and more than five times that of flu and pneumonia over the same time, Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.

Much has been said about Omicron causing milder illnesses than earlier variants — though it’s also probable that higher vaccination rates, anti-COVID-19 drugs and increased immunity from past infections all played a role in blunting the severity of the latest fall and winter wave.

While that’s true, COVID-19 continues to have deadly consequences. More than 4,800 COVID-associated deaths have been recorded this year in the nation’s most populous county — 25% in residents younger than 65.

Recent death rate data by age group underscore the still-potent power of Omicron. Between May and July, the death rate for L.A. County residents age 80 and older was three times the rate from those same months in 2021. For adults 65 to 79, the death rate was 1½ times that of the prior year. By contrast, death rates fell among younger adults."

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...an-car-crashes

[skyway31]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

"The Omicron coronavirus variant killed Angelenos at a higher rate than both the flu and car crashes during the early part of 2022, according to county health officials.

An analysis of death certificates from January to April found that there were 31.8 deaths from COVID-19 for every 100,000 residents of all ages in Los Angeles County. That’s nine times the comparable rate for motor vehicle deaths and more than five times that of flu and pneumonia over the same time, Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.

Much has been said about Omicron causing milder illnesses than earlier variants — though it’s also probable that higher vaccination rates, anti-COVID-19 drugs and increased immunity from past infections all played a role in blunting the severity of the latest fall and winter wave.

While that’s true, COVID-19 continues to have deadly consequences. More than 4,800 COVID-associated deaths have been recorded this year in the nation’s most populous county — 25% in residents younger than 65.

Recent death rate data by age group underscore the still-potent power of Omicron. Between May and July, the death rate for L.A. County residents age 80 and older was three times the rate from those same months in 2021. For adults 65 to 79, the death rate was 1½ times that of the prior year. By contrast, death rates fell among younger adults."

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...an-car-crashes

But intelligent readers are aware that those numbers are intentionally, severely misleading. Because they decided to test every single person who came to the hospital for ANY reason, and anyone with a positive test anytime near their death was automatically counted as a Covid death, no matter that ACTUAL cause of death. Of course, stupid people and those with radical political agendas acknowledge no such thing. These folks will say that all of those people died because of Covid, not with Covid.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by skyway31

But intelligent readers are aware that those numbers are intentionally, severely misleading. Because they decided to test every single person who came to the hospital for ANY reason, and anyone with a positive test anytime near their death was automatically counted as a Covid death, no matter that ACTUAL cause of death. Of course, stupid people and those with radical political agendas acknowledge no such thing. These folks will say that all of those people died because of Covid, not with Covid.

Maybe you, being an "intelligent reader," should contact the L.A. County Department of Public Health to investigate the deaths of the 16 people who died yesterday of COVID-19 in Los Angeles County. One wouldn't want "stupid people" and "those with radical political agendas" putting out what you apparently believe is misleading data.

LA County Daily COVID-19 Data - LA County Department of Public Health

[skyway31]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Maybe you, being an "intelligent reader," should contact the L.A. County Department of Public Health to investigate the deaths of the 16 people who died yesterday of COVID-19 in Los Angeles County. One wouldn't want "stupid people" and "those with radical political agendas" putting out what you apparently believe is misleading data.

LA County Daily COVID-19 Data - LA County Department of Public Health

Sequence of events: The aforementioned individuals had Covid listed as a contributing factor to their deaths...because they tested positive (and they tested for Covid in the first place because they automatically test EVERYONE who shows up at the hospital for ANY reason) at some point in the somewhat recent past relative to their date of death. And then the above is referred to as them having "died of Covid". Covid usually was not believed to be the cause of death. And, evidence of it actually being a contributing factor at all is often lacking, beyond the positive PCR test. It isn't my belief that this is a deliberately misleading practice: it is widely understood that this IS misleading. It is widely understood that public health departments are profoundly radical and intentionally misleading folks so as to advance their political agenda.

Imagine if anti-vaxxers had their way. Imagine if every single person who died within a month of receiving the vaccine was automatically, uncritically, categorized as having died by the vaccine. That would be A LOT of
"vaccine deaths". That would be complete bullsh*t. And yet that's exactly what's been happening with Covid.

The push for "Equity"- measured by checking for equivalence of outcomes for all- will have to be litigated as part of our democratic elections process. The abolitionist, anti-capitalist revolution will not come about through endless states of emergencies and totalitarian public health orders.

[skyway31]

http://https://www.npr.org/sections/...ibextid=n6J8b8

“ "We are now seeing consistently that more than 70% of our COVID hospitalizations are in that category," says Dr. Shira Doron, an infectious disease specialist at the Tufts Medical Center and a professor at the Tufts University School of Medicine. "If you're counting them all as hospitalizations, and then those people die and you count them all as COVID deaths, you are pretty dramatically overcounting."