LAPD Still Won't Get Vaccinated (privacy, American, history)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Good info. But if they negotiated such a thing, it means it went through the proper motions and both parties agreed to such a deal. That's precisely what I think LAPD is saying didn't happen in their case.

From a purely philosophical/ideological point of view here, I agree they might be over-asking for the exempted to not have to pay for any testing, but if the mandate conflicts with state labor law, the city can't ignore that. Their union would be remiss to not bring it up.

Going all the way back to the beginning of this, a testing option for those with exemptions isn't a big deal and all of this could've been avoided had the city acted more reasonably in the first place.

I can't think of one good reason why taxpayers should have to pay in the neighborhood of $800 a month for every cop who refuses to get vaccinated to get tested.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I can't think of one good reason why taxpayers should have to pay in the neighborhood of $800 a month for every cop who refuses to get vaccinated to get tested.

I can’t think of one good reason California is doing all this crap and cops and firefighters which were called essential workers last year are being fired this year

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

I can’t think of one good reason California is doing all this crap and cops and firefighters which were called essential workers last year are being fired this year

Essential workers need to be vaccinated, it really is that simple Fin

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Essential workers need to be vaccinated, it really is that simple Fin

It’s really not but you have your opinion and I have mine

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I can't think of one good reason why taxpayers should have to pay in the neighborhood of $800 a month for every cop who refuses to get vaccinated to get tested.

State law?
This is why I said this is a labor issue first and foremost.

[mcp86]

From twitter -

After threats that 10,000 NYPD officers could quit the force over the NYC vaccine mandate, the actual number going on unpaid leave today was 34.

Also a good time to remember that the biggest killer of US police in 2020 and 2021 was COVID.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/heres-...ccine-mandate/

[Finper]

Originally Posted by mcp86

From twitter -

After threats that 10,000 NYPD officers could quit the force over the NYC vaccine mandate, the actual number going on unpaid leave today was 34.

Also a good time to remember that the biggest killer of US police in 2020 and 2021 was COVID.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/heres-...ccine-mandate/

So you think 9,966 people got the vax? You need to read that article

[TurcoLoco]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Essential workers need to be vaccinated, it really is that simple Fin

With due respect, far from being that simple, imho.

It is no one's business or right to force or even judge anyone else about getting vaccinated, especially when it comes to such a questionable, DNA altering one with the derogatory side effects that we are just becoming aware of.

Related information from the officials and media is also questionable, at best, if not inaccurate and/or manipulated.

To each his own, truly.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by TurcoLoco

It is no one's business or right to force or even judge anyone else about getting vaccinated, especially when it comes to such a questionable, DNA altering one

Myth: The mRNA vaccines change your DNA and could cause cancer.
Truth: None of the vaccines interact with or alter your DNA in any way, and therefore cannot cause cancer.
https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/my...id-19-vaccines

Will a COVID-19 vaccine alter my DNA?
No. COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way. Both mRNA and viral vector COVID-19 vaccines deliver instructions (genetic material) to our cells to start building protection against the virus that causes COVID-19. However, the material never enters the nucleus of the cell, which is where our DNA is kept.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...M:gen:PTN:FY21

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by TurcoLoco

With due respect, far from being that simple, imho.

It is no one's business or right to force or even judge anyone else about getting vaccinated, especially when it comes to such a questionable, DNA altering one with the derogatory side effects that we are just becoming aware of.

Related information from the officials and media is also questionable, at best, if not inaccurate and/or manipulated.

To each his own, truly.

George Washington mandated his troops to be vaccinated against smallpox during the Revolution … it goes that far back. And kids have been required to be vaccinated against polio for generations.

Not arguing for or against the mandates… just pointing out fallacious arguments by others.