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Old 07-06-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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so after receiving several months' worth of feedback from its readers, the la times completed its mapping of the city's neighborhoods this past spring.

one neighborhood which i've been wondering about is east hollywood. the la times' final boundaries for the area are hollywood blvd on the north, hoover st on the east, beverly blvd on the south, and western ave on the west:
East Hollywood - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

the northern, eastern, and northwestern boundaries are exactly what i thought they would be. but i'd always been told that the southern/southwestern boundary is the 101 freeway - which would place the entire neighborhood above the 101 and would mean that the area east of western, north of beverly, and south of the 101 contains the koreatown/hollywood border.

then i looked at the website of the east hollywood neighborhood council, which defines EH as being situated entirely above the 101. this coincides with what i'd heard and contradicts the la times' final conclusions:
East Hollywood Neighborhood Council (scroll down to see map)

i realize that the la times derived its neighborhood boundaries from reader feedback as well as independent research, but it seems odd that EH's own neighborhood council would have such a different opinion of its southern/southwestern boundary.

and i know wikipedia isn't always correct, but whoever wrote the entry for east hollywood also seems to think that the entire neighborhood lies above the 101:
East Hollywood, Los Angeles, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

furthermore, the wiki entry for melrose hill describes that enclave - which lies immediately south/southwest of the 101 and northeast of the intersection of melrose and western - as a subsection of hollywood, not east hollywood:
Melrose Hill, Los Angeles, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and the la times' 2004 article about melrose hill describes it as being in southeast hollywood (It's barely on the map, and that's fine - Los Angeles Times), which contradicts the newspaper's 2009 map in which melrose hill is a subsection of east hollywood.

for those who are familiar with this area, is the la times' map correct? if not, where would you draw the southern boundary of east hollywood?

and if the 101 is the actual border, then where does hollywood end and k-town begin? it seems like the area south of melrose, north of beverly, east of western, and west of the 101 is kind of a disputed territory between the two neighborhoods.

Last edited by Green Irish Eyes; 07-06-2009 at 05:23 PM.. Reason: Moved back to its own thread.
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:53 PM
 
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I lived near Beverly and Edgemont the first couple years I was in LA, which was technically Koreatown; however, in that little 'hood, there was nothing Korean by any stretch. The whole area was Guatemalan/Salvadorean.

Consequently, when people asked where I lived, I'd say "the place that hath no name" or "that no-man's land near Beverly and Vermont."
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:45 PM
 
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two years after i created this post, i finally get my first response.

anyway yeah, that area near beverly and vermont really is a no man's land. i'm assuming you lived just south of beverly? because if so, that definitely falls within the official boundaries of koreatown...although in reality, i think of it more as "that area where i can get some good pupusas and other salvadoran food." to be honest, "little central america" might be a better name for that stretch of beverly between normandie and vermont.

even along the stretch of beverly that does have korean businesses (between western and normandie), there's much more of a mix of ethnic businesses compared with the heart of ktown. besides korean and central american storefronts, i've also seen mexican, thai, indonesian, and filipino places, among others.

so if the definition of what constitutes koreatown is "a continuous stretch of korean businesses", then everything up to beverly would qualify, although perhaps not on beverly itself east of normandie. there's also a stretch of western ave north of beverly, leading up to melrose ave, which has a bunch of korean businesses and is generally considered part of ktown by most koreans i know.

but what about the triangular area north of beverly, south of the 101 freeway, and east of western? now that's truly a neighborhood without a name.

i definitely don't consider it part of ktown, other than that aforementioned stretch of western ave itself between beverly and melrose. it also seems removed from hollywood, although the small subsection north of melrose/east of western/south of the 101 - called melrose hill - has been described by the LA Times and wikipedia as being at the southeasternmost edge of hollywood, not east hollywood.

so it gets really confusing when the LA Times declares that triangular no man's land as part of east hollywood while EH's own neighborhood council only claims the area north of the 101 freeway.
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