Louisiana Secession as the ORLwizyan. (Lafayette: vs., island, children)

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by psulions2007

In this particular case, I would say it is exceptionally doubtful as there is no general consensus among a large group that the culture is dying/in need of imminent saving and protection like there is in Québec.

I am getting confused about whether we are talking about Quebec or Louisiana, but maybe it's just me...

Louisiana - zero chance, and the only way I see that state not being part of the U.S. is if there was a wider movement to separate the entire South over "values". But even that is a very remote possibility.

Quebec - slim chance. It ebbs and flows and though they are in the doldrums at the moment, you never know what can happen as long as the movement still has a pulse.

[hdwell]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I am getting confused about whether we are talking about Quebec or Louisiana, but maybe it's just me...

Louisiana - zero chance, and the only way I see that state not being part of the U.S. is if there was a wider movement to separate the entire South over "values". But even that is a very remote possibility.

Quebec - slim chance. It ebbs and flows and though they are in the doldrums at the moment, you never know what can happen as long as the movement still has a pulse.

My interpretation of what the OP is saying is that this is what the Creole group in Louisiana wants to do IN CASE the US collapses and divides up. They want to keep their culture and the Cajun culture alive and in one nation. I'm not going to agree or disagree with it. But just splitting off without a militaristic reason, no.

[ORLwizyan]

Originally Posted by hdwell

My interpretation of what the OP is saying is that this is what the Creole group in Louisiana wants to do IN CASE the US collapses and divides up. They want to keep their culture and the Cajun culture alive and in one nation. I'm not going to agree or disagree with it. But just splitting off without a militaristic reason, no.

Your analysis is incorrect, we are pushing for our ( Creoles and Cajuns, people of Louisiana descent, natives alike). The people of Louisiana are of a different class not only in the state but in the South, as well as the whole of the U.S.A. Currently Louisiana French both those dialects of the Creoles and the Cajuns are dieing, while the culture is fine, no more growing than it is changing. In the past, the 1800's through to the early 1900's along with those of African
( Creoles ) descent , Cajuns and fair skinned Creole natives to the South Louisiana region were delivered harsh discrimination by the American whites. That discrimination trans-versed into today, with the continuing death of orginal Louisiana French dialects.

Not only are we fighting for true Louisiana Culture but the many beliefs of our group to be enacted under a new nation governing principle.

[ORLwizyan]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I am getting confused about whether we are talking about Quebec or Louisiana, but maybe it's just me...

Louisiana - zero chance, and the only way I see that state not being part of the U.S. is if there was a wider movement to separate the entire South over "values". But even that is a very remote possibility.

Quebec - slim chance. It ebbs and flows and though they are in the doldrums at the moment, you never know what can happen as long as the movement still has a pulse.

Your proposal of a, " Southern America" campaign is something this board would not agree to, for our values as Creoles and Cajuns are amongst a different narrative to that of American Southerners to a degree of mostly culture.

This board sees the people of Louisiana as Louisianians, not American Southerners nor Americans, not to belittle those groups or put them to a lower caliber but e.g. the Canadians to the Americans. Both groups have similarities both groups can work together as shown in history and both groups see one another a different.

We do not wish to not be American, but we do wish to be Louisianians and that only it.

[hdwell]

This whole idea makes no sense. The world has progressed since colonial Louisiana and there is no need to take it back into history. Such "nations" are ripe for revolt anytime. People don't want to live under the dictates of so-called nobility regardless of their ethnic backround. That is why it was thrown off in 19th centruy Germany and FRance.

As for the monarchs of the UK, Norway, Sweden, etc. They are just figureheads with not a great deal of power.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by ORLwizyan

This board sees the people of Louisiana as Louisianians, not American Southerners nor Americans, not to belittle those groups or put them to a lower caliber but e.g. the Canadians to the Americans. Both groups have similarities both groups can work together as shown in history and both groups see one another a different.

We do not wish to not be American, but we do wish to be Louisianians and that only it.

Speak for yourself.

[mhounit]

Originally Posted by ORLwizyan

We do not wish to not be American, but we do wish to be Louisianians and that only it.

And that is why your silly little fantasy will crash and burn .

[ORLwizyan]

Originally Posted by hdwell

This whole idea makes no sense. The world has progressed since colonial Louisiana and there is no need to take it back into history. Such "nations" are ripe for revolt anytime. People don't want to live under the dictates of so-called nobility regardless of their ethnic backround. That is why it was thrown off in 19th centruy Germany and FRance.

As for the monarchs of the UK, Norway, Sweden, etc. They are just figureheads with not a great deal of power.

We are not trading modern day Louisiana for what was the past. Just for the matter that we have old traditions and a unique language that roots from our historic beginnings it does not make our nation un-civil or devalue it in anyways, if anything it would increase tourism and gain a global idea of what Nouvelle Lwizyan is.

Never has anyone representing this campaign announced a state regarding Lwizyan owning a system of Monarchy government. I do not understand why so many people are uneducated on the matter of Oligarchical governments, The U.S. government has a set limitation system on the president as well as every other major sector in its bounds, what idea makes you believe we will become a Dictatorship with Oligarchical leaders who pose absolute power, You have not asked what the governmental networks are in this system yet you state untrue facts about " what we are and what we stand for ".

The Oligarchical leaders in the ORL will be voted not picked for there family linage or financial namesake. They will be voted into office directly by the population, unlike what is delivered in the U.S and a many other nations who claim to be republic systems.

May you please ask and learn before you present to statements, others believe what they read and then gain unattractive premise to this campaign.

[ORLwizyan]

Originally Posted by mhounit

And that is why your silly little fantasy will crash and burn .

AMERICANS do not have to agree with what the Chinese do in their government, AMERICANS dont have to agree with how Canadians trade with the Brazilians, AMERICANS have no reason to care for Mexican corruption, nor do many people in Mexico, Canada, or China have to agree with AMERICAN governmental ideals or fashions. No country has to agree with another to be a country, your comment is irrelevant to this entire matter. Americans are not the greatest people in this world nor do the hold title to having the greatest nation in the world. Just as anywhere, the U.S. has problems that are apparent.

Mexico, Canada, and China trade with the U.S.A, Canada and Mexico border the U.S.A and the Chinese have loaned trillions in currency with the U.S. as well as Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the U.K., Venezuela etc. all those countries are sovereign, non of which are commonwealths of the U.S.,

We do not have to agree with the U.S.A to stand as a sovereign nation.

Yet I do understand your comment, yet again, we do not have to agree with the American society to thrive as a nation economically

You might want to read up on Marshall Islands, Palau and Micronesia ( all nations once under U.S control ),

OR, Eritrea, Timor Leste, Kosovo, Serbia, and Most recently South Sudan: all nations that most likely have seceded from their nations in your life time.

There are many nations that have formed for culture reasons, we are not ignorant people that just want to cause problems, we believe in the people of Louisiana.

[annie_himself]

What did those small islands do for us? Nothing right?
Louisiana does much more than nothing for this country. It won't happen without civil war or interference.