Mass shooting in Lewiston (Lisbon: high crime, school district, living in)

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by TamaraSavannah

Because we don't trust the government. The closing of the automatic registry is proof of that. Sure, we can have a machine gun, it is legal, they are out there........but they changed the rules so very few people can play.

Trusting the government can lead to one's rights still being on paper but with so many hoops to jump through that it is no longer possible to use them......if they don't ban them outright.

Well, you trust the government with your tax $$...unless you're an evader.

But beyond that, no right is unfettered. Especially if the Founders could only see how their original intent behind 2A has been perversely twisted.

[roadrat]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Well, you trust the government with your tax $$...unless you're an evader.

But beyond that, no right is unfettered. Especially if the Founders could only see how their original intent behind 2A has been perversely twisted.

LOL Our current government is spending hundreds of billions funding foreign wars, I gotta wonder how many psychiatric hospitals that would build... So no I do not trust our government with our tax money.

[roadrat]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

I think you need a history lesson...big time.

I know my history very well, Even my recent history where a bunch of goat herders drove the most powerful military force on earth out of Afghanistan...
Perhaps you have heard of it.

[Nevada2012]

Originally Posted by TamaraSavannah

Fully automatic. They closed the registry so those that are out there are almost 40 years old and are out of sight expensive. Short barrel rifles. Magazine limits.

Look at what you can be taken to jail for by the ATF.....and look at the individual weapons that the government, armed forces and police, can have.

BUT if you want to say, "As long as you can have a single shot .22 pistol, the 2A rights are there," FINE, enjoy your koolaid.

I never said that and I don't want to say that.

I asked a question. I appreciate that your responded.

No need to start name calling, yet

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by Sand&Salt

That's why it's hopeless in the U.S. We used to say that if the Congress-critters kids got shot up, things would change.

I no longer believe even that would do it. People are A-OK with children being shot up. They love their guns more.

^This.

Witness Rep. Golden changing his stance after this incident. Even he couldn't ignore the reality when it hit his district.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by roadrat

I know my history very well, Even my recent history where a bunch of goat herders drove the most powerful military force on earth out of Afghanistan...
Perhaps you have heard of it.

LOL. Totally off thread, but you proved my point about how little you understand the geopolitics of that region. If you think the Taliban, and before that the mujahideen (during the Cold War) were not funded by the superpowers, with Pakistan's ISI working its mischief...not sure what to tell you.

[TamaraSavannah]

Originally Posted by Sand&Salt

That's why it's hopeless in the U.S. We used to say that if the Congress-critters kids got shot up, things would change.

I no longer believe even that would do it. People are A-OK with children being shot up. They love their guns more.

No, they probably love their freedom more to why they keep their guns.

If anything else, they probably know their history of the government taking by force the children of the disarmed. https://www.aclu.org/news/racial-jus...-supreme-court

However, that is just my opinion......

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by TamaraSavannah

No, they probably love their freedom more to why they keep their guns.

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^This is even more grotesque. Folks value the "freedom" to carry weapons that can slaughter this many people so rapidly, more so than the very lives of those people? Where does this madness end, when their own family members fall victim?

[TamaraSavannah]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

^This is even more grotesque. Folks value the "freedom" to carry weapons that can slaughter this many people so rapidly, more so than the very lives of those people? Where does this madness end, when their own family members fall victim?

Well, it might end when one has a government they can trust......but I really don't see that anytime soon. I mean, after all, when it comes to children, do "you" really trust a government that forces vaccinations or is very loose in who can use the bath and locker rooms of one's children? Do "you" want to be disarmed and have no say other than the ballot box, which may or may not be honest, to what they can do to "you", to "your family"?

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by TamaraSavannah

Well, it might end when one has a government they can trust......but I really don't see that anytime soon. I mean, after all, when it comes to children, do "you" really trust a government that forces vaccinations or is very loose in who can use the bath and locker rooms of one's children? Do "you" want to be disarmed and have no say other than the ballot box, which may or may not be honest, to what they can do to "you", to "your family"?

You and I know darn well this isn't about mistrust of government. In any case, it tells me these folks couldn't care less about human lives being lost because of their paranoia.