No more Semi Auto Rifles in Mass?? (Boston, Chicopee: gated, live)

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by tysmith95

That's a pistol in the example you used, not a semi automatic weapon. It's not reasonable to expect people to carry around ak-15's as protection.

There were two here recently with the armed citizen taking on more than one attacker. I thought this was it, although it never states if it was a revolver or semi auto handgun.


So it isn't reasonable to have a semi auto rifle , but a semi auto handgun is okay ?

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by Listener2307

Oh, I think most people understand what semi-automatic means. But other people try to make the matter more complicated and claim that all pistols are semi-automatic and so forth.

But pistols are semi-automatic weapon. So are a lot of modern hunting rifles and shotguns.


If you are defining Semi-auto to mean ONLY Ar-15/AK47 makes things confusing to others as the correct meaning of the term refers to the operation of a firearms action....a design that is over 120 years old

[timberline742]

Seems to me the issue is capacity. With some of these semi auto rifles one can get very large capacity clips which can up the carnage / fire power considerably as there aren't breaks to reload (and flee).

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by timberline742

the point still stands though, these rifles aren't self defense weapons

Take it with a grain of salt, these are just the opinions of the average citizen...


8 Experts Pick Their Home Defense Weapon of Choice




Interesting...


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It saved these individuals business

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Myself, for home defense it is a handgun (semi auto) and a pump action shotgun. The AR is close by but in a safe.

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Seems to me the issue is capacity. With some of these semi auto rifles one can get very large capacity clips which can up the carnage / fire power considerably as there aren't breaks to reload (and flee).

OR , you can just duct tape two 10 round mags together...just saying

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Seems to me the issue is capacity. With some of these semi auto rifles one can get very large capacity clips which can up the carnage / fire power considerably as there aren't breaks to reload (and flee).

MA has a 10rd mag limit. And lot of states limit you to hunting with a 5 rd magazine, which is available for those who do hunt with with an AR. However, pre-1994 magazines are grandfathered in and legal to own, however you need to hold a Mass LTC in order to possess them.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by BostonMike7

MA has a capacity limit of 10 rd. Lots of states limit you to hunting with a 5 rd magazine, which is available and used with the AR15 when hunting.

Sure, but that is only MA. And aren't there after market clips that can be bought at gun shows? I've seen what certainly seems to be a much larger than 10 cartridge clip at NH shows.

Anyway, I'm still thinking regulating ammo might be more effective. There are way too many guns. None could be sold for 100 years and they'd still be all over the place.

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Sure, but that is only MA. And aren't there after market clips that can be bought at gun shows? I've seen what certainly seems to be a much larger than 10 cartridge clip at NH shows.

Anyway, I'm still thinking regulating ammo might be more effective. There are way too many guns. None could be sold for 100 years and they'd still be all over the place.

Yes, in NH and many other states, you can get 100 rd magazines if you wanted. MA does regulate ammo. You need a license (which is tied to a background check) to buy and possess.

I don't think anything is going to be effective. Like you said, guns are everywhere and if someone wants one, they can get it. So all this legislation does is chip away bit by bit, affecting those who play by the rules. it's sort of like cigarettes. Remember when half the restaurant used to be the smoking section? Now you have towns banning smoking in public places, and nobody cares because they did it over the course of 20-30 years rather than overnight. That's the main reason why you are seeing gun owners fight against ANY new legislation. It's viewed as death by a thousand cuts. You don't ban firearms overnight, you just take a little bit here and there.

The latest mass shootings weren't done by firearm enthusiasts like myself who are of no threat to the general public. The one thing the shooters had in common is they all procured their weapons very shortly before doing what they did. That's why I think the AG did this. I'm positive it will get challenged in court, and possibly defeated, but in the meantime, she cut off someone from waking up tomorrow and saying they want to buy an AR and go shoot up a nightclub in Boston. However, as a result, the 10's of thousands of honest MA citizens woke up felons on Wednesday morning, are now technically wondering what happens to them with a retroactive 10-year felony hanging over their head.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by BostonMike7

Oh. And in MA, ammo is regulated. You need a license to buy and possess. In fact, bullet keychains are technically illegal to have in MA without a license.

Yes, in MA. This really should be done Nationally, like most of these things, IMO.

Yeah, there are large cultural difference between states (just a generation ago, kids in parts of Wisconsin were bringing their .22 to school to go hunting after work), but this patchwork thing doesn't really work. There are guns that are legally bought in places like Hammond IN that pour over into Chicago. It just doesn't make sense to me to regulate it this way.

Our situation is just pretty insane, but sadly, nothing gets done despite the death toll always increasing.

[OrganicSmallHome]

Originally Posted by Colorado^

Because the guy who just broke into your house has one. Or do you think this law will also disarm criminals.

That's ridiculous. If someone breaks into your home, chances are you will be asleep--hardly enough time to load and fire a semi-automatic for protection. And I would guess that the number of home break-ins by robbers with a semi-automatic weapon are miniscule-to-non-existant. There was far more crime in the U.S. decades ago and nobody felt the need for a semi-automatic weapon. This is simply a case of emotionally underdeveloped "adults" who suffer from paranoid delusions and/or get a feeling of power from owning a semi-automatic weapon.