07-26-2016, 02:05 PM
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Our situation is just pretty insane, but sadly, nothing gets done despite the death toll always increasing.
Unfortuntely it's sort of like a catch-22. You try and regulate it on a federal level and you get pushback from politicians in the conservative states where guns are part of the everyday culture (ranching, farming, hunting, etc). It gets delegated down to the state level to set rules and regulations, and as a result, you get the patchwork system that clearly does not work as is seen in the Chicago/Hammond example.
After the AG's latest move, MA may have the strictest laws in the nation now, an a short drive to the north, is a state with lax firearm laws. However, MA has always been safe with regards to firearm crimes. We are #3 in the nation. Is this new move really going to change much considering 7 rifle murders in 10 years?
07-26-2016, 02:17 PM
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That's ridiculous. If someone breaks into your home, chances are you will be asleep--hardly enough time to load and fire a semi-automatic for protection. And I would guess that the number of home break-ins by robbers with a semi-automatic weapon are miniscule-to-non-existant. There was far more crime in the U.S. decades ago and nobody felt the need for a semi-automatic weapon. This is simply a case of emotionally underdeveloped "adults" who suffer from paranoid delusions and/or get a feeling of power from owning a semi-automatic weapon.
Please stop equating semi-automatic to only mean a military style rifle. Semi-autos have been around since the late 1800's and millions of americans own them, and have owned them for decades.
This popular hunting rifle (benelli R1) is semi-automatic
This popular pistol (1911) is semi-automatic
Someone could certainly keep a semi-auto pistol bedside and grab it out of a nighstand quickly. And chances are, someone breaking into the house would in fact have a semi-auto pistol.
Please stop name calling. People are trying to have a mature discussion here.
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07-26-2016, 02:58 PM
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That's ridiculous. If someone breaks into your home, chances are you will be asleep--hardly enough time to load and fire a semi-automatic for protection. And I would guess that the number of home break-ins by robbers with a semi-automatic weapon are miniscule-to-non-existant. There was far more crime in the U.S. decades ago and nobody felt the need for a semi-automatic weapon. This is simply a case of emotionally underdeveloped "adults" who suffer from paranoid delusions and/or get a feeling of power from owning a semi-automatic weapon.
Interesting...these must be made up...
https://foac-pac.org/Defense-Stories
Something tells me you have no clue what the difference is between a semi auto and a select fire firearm is.
07-26-2016, 03:36 PM
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Maybe, but how many people realistically are keeping that gun in a safe locked up properly, then taking it out, putting it in the bedstand at night, then locking it back up every morning.
That and the odds of actually having someone break in... I mean, I could live 100 lifetimes in Chicago (where I've lived) and the odds are so far against it ever happening it isn't funny. And then to have that situation happen where I'd actually need a gun (which I hope people don't use much over property, just if they're physically threatened). I dunno, it does seem like paranoia... in part due to our media these days.
Skeet shooting sure was fun though. I kind of want a 20 gauge for skeet or quail hunting.
07-26-2016, 03:38 PM
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Interesting...these must be made up...
https://foac-pac.org/Defense-Stories
Something tells me you have no clue what the difference is between a semi auto and a select fire firearm is.
I'm from Texas. I know the difference. And I also know very well the attitude and drive behind people who want semi-automatic weapons.
07-26-2016, 03:47 PM
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I'm from Texas. I know the difference. And I also know very well the attitude and drive behind people who want semi-automatic weapons.
I agree.
My home is defended with a Ruger Single Action, but I could defend it just as easily with a Bond Arms Snake Slayer.
I don't need a "Big Arn" with great "stopping power" that can be reloaded in less than one second. That stuff should only be available to law enforcement and Military organizations.
07-26-2016, 05:01 PM
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I agree.
Tell you what. You defend your home with what you want, and how about you mind your own business and let others make their OWN decisions? This is the United States of America. We are supposed to be a free country where we can make our own decisions and the Second Amendment protects our right to keep and bear the small arms of our own choosing. Some may prefer a revolver, others a semi-auto pistol, and others maybe a shotgun or sporting rifle. We don't need or want elitist government bureaucrats making those decisions for us. Molon Labe!
07-26-2016, 05:08 PM
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I'm from Texas. I know the difference. And I also know very well the attitude and drive behind people who want semi-automatic weapons.
Please do tell, this "attitude and drive" you are speaking of .....
07-26-2016, 05:15 PM
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Tell you what. You defend your home with what you want, and how about you mind your own business and let others make their OWN decisions? This is the United States of America. We are supposed to be a free country where we can make our own decisions and the Second Amendment protects our right to keep and bear the small arms of our own choosing. Some may prefer a revolver, others a semi-auto pistol, and others maybe a shotgun or sporting rifle. We don't need or want elitist government bureaucrats making those decisions for us. Molon Labe!
What if I want an uzi or a self propelled grenade launcher?
07-26-2016, 05:22 PM
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Please do tell, this "attitude and drive" you are speaking of .....
Maybe this one?
Teen at wrong house shot dead through door | Boston Herald
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A Chicopee man shot and killed a 15-year-old boy who was knocking on his front door Saturday after the teen mistakenly went to the house believing a friend lived there, police said.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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