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Old 10-18-2011, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Let me give you a piece of advice that your not going to like but in the long run, we see that I'm right. Distance yourself fro your freind! Get as far away from them as possible. You want to help them, you feel like you NEED to help them, but you cannot. There is simply nothing you can do at all. Accept it, tell your freind how you feel about it, and most importantly MOVE ON. Take it from someone who knows first hand.

Addicts are full of excuses for why they wont quit, why they wont get help, etc. etc.

The choice has to be theirs and theirs alone. Nothing you do will help the situation, I gaurantee you that much. If you stress about it, you are only setting yourself up for heartache and misery, until you eventualy inevitably find out what I'm telling you for yourself.
Two words come to mind: enabling and co-dependent.
You're right; don't enable or support.
The addict needs to hit their bottom to recover.

If you want to help, stay away and get to Al-Anon or Nar-Anon.
Take care of yourself, first.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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If Katie has been told any of this she's been told all of it and more a hundred times over by so many people on so many threads for such a long time. It's a revolving door and unfortunately nothing ever changes. Too bad.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:47 PM
 
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Abe Twerski wrote a book: Caution, "Kindness" Can Be Dangerous to the Alcoholic
Caution: Kindness Can Be Dangerous to the Alcoholic: Twerski, Abraham - AbeBooks - 9780131212367: Crashing Rocks Books

Our well-meaning selves can kill others.
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:11 PM
 
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Abe Twerski wrote a book: Caution, "Kindness" Can Be Dangerous to the Alcoholic
Caution: Kindness Can Be Dangerous to the Alcoholic: Twerski, Abraham - AbeBooks - 9780131212367: Crashing Rocks Books

Our well-meaning selves can kill others.
I agree, yet so many won't heed this.
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Guys, read her other threads, this drama never ends with her. She has been given advice over and over again and ignores all of it. She posts just to post, the same stuff over and over again, there is no end to her continuos loop.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:17 PM
 
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If Katie has been told any of this she's been told all of it and more a hundred times over by so many people on so many threads for such a long time. It's a revolving door and unfortunately nothing ever changes. Too bad.
Still new and learning my way here...thanks.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Katie needs common sense and a clue
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:35 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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Let me give you a piece of advice that your not going to like but in the long run, we see that I'm right. Distance yourself fro your freind! Get as far away from them as possible. You want to help them, you feel like you NEED to help them, but you cannot. There is simply nothing you can do at all. Accept it, tell your freind how you feel about it, and most importantly MOVE ON. Take it from someone who knows first hand.
I had to do the exact same thing. One of my best friends for many years started getting inolved with prescription pills. I got so sick of the lies, the blaming it on others, guilt trips and the overall situation I gave up and did move on.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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Katie needs common sense and a clue
Ahh...come on people....cut her some slack....you knew it was her when you posted...if you'r all out of positive things/advice to give...why reply at all???...you gotta admit...Katies not the only one who continues to seek advice for the same/similar things.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Penobscot Bay, the best place in Maine!
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In most cases (at least in my area) if you are talking about opiate-abusers who are trying to receive help via methadone or suboxone (either in-house or out-patient program), then yes- they DO need to test positive for opiates on their intake appointment. I'm not saying it makes sense to me, but it's what I know to be true (and I mean true, as told to me by the clinical staff and admins, NOT from the mouth of an addict!).
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