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Santander (Spain), (EFE) .- The "lack of strength in the information" and the use of figures "shocking" by the United States contribute to creating an image "opposite" of Mexico, said today organized crime investigator Center for International Studies at El Colegio de Mexico (CEICM), Fernando Escalante.
While the DEA says that volume amounts to 100,000 million dollars, the other institutions working with figures of between 19,000 and 30,000 million dollars, said the representative of CEICM.
However, Elliott said that the Mexican Government has estimated at $ 5.000 million cash generated together drug trafficking, migrant remittances and the cash spent by foreigners in their country.
In this line, the expert stressed that since EU warns of the dangers of traveling to Mexico, when in fact "two Americans die every year" for homicide in Mexico, a rate much lower than the 5.2 deaths per hundred thousand U.S. .
Escalante also describes the "fantasy image" that society has about drug trafficking, augmented by the media, which in turn have led to the "spectacle" of the murders, because the drug cartels know that a murder flashy " be first page of a newspaper. "
However, the expert avoided to speculate about the reasons that lead to the U.S. to give this image of its southern neighbor, and said that, despite everything, relations between both countries are "good."
Escalante also commented on the controversial Immigration Act of Arizona (USA), making it a crime the presence of a person without a legal permit, which authorizes the police to ask for papers and detain persons suspected of being undocumented.
In this regard, the specialist believes that the EU-Mexico border "offers political returns" for part of the "political class" and suggested an analogy with the expulsion of Roma by the French government decreed that "the right wins votes "and" capitalizing on a media issue, "which does not mean that France" will be fighting with Bulgaria or Romania. "
In the same vein, the director of the College of Mexico, Javier Garciadiego, called "double business' use of Mexican immigrants by politicians" and local sheriffs "in the U.S..
"They say they will tighten the border," he added Garciadiego-but let them happen because companies do not survive without them. "
While the DEA says that volume amounts to 100,000 million dollars, the other institutions working with figures of between 19,000 and 30,000 million dollars, said the representative of CEICM.
Do you seriously think anyone is going to look at the the 30,000 figure and say "gee that's not so bad" then look at the 100,000 figure and say "now that's outrageous"?
The US isn't making Mexico look bad, Mexico is making Mexico look bad.
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In this line, the expert stressed that since EU warns of the dangers of traveling to Mexico, when in fact "two Americans die every year" for homicide in Mexico, a rate much lower than the 5.2 deaths per hundred thousand U.S. .
Not sure what is being said here. I hope it's not comparing the rate of Americans who go to Mexico and die with the rate at which they die in the US. Because there is a dramatic difference in exposure. They probably spend an average of 3 to 7 days in Mexico versus 350+ days back in the US.
Stereotyping entire nations is offensive and a detriment to rational discussion. It's impossible to discuss anything realistically by assigning cause/blame to the "USA" and/or "Mexico." Which Americans are we talking about? Which Mexicans? The media? Some media? All politicians? Some politicians? Drug cartels?
the problem is we are not on the same page.
mexico is ok with exporting its undesirables to a country that is suffering massive unemployment. mexico on the other hand-- is doing pretty good in employment but that employment is in selling us dope and its citizens working here illegally taking jobs from americans, and sending the money back to mexico.
What's wrong with most Americans is that they automatically class anybody south of the border as being jobless, living in a hovel and dodging bullets. That is NOT the lifestyle of the vast majority of Mexicans, Central Americans or Latin Americans for that matter. While it is true that in most places there is a 5 year gap between the technology that's available versus the US and that there's a lot of entrenched poverty (especially in rural areas) but Latin America overwhelmingly doesn't meet the average American's view of what a third world country is. To most Americans, Mexico and Afghanistan are interchangeable. This is simply not true.
And I'm an African American saying this, but the amount of ignorance Americans have concerning Mexico when they've had the biggest impact on our own culture in the last 40 years is ridiculous.
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What's wrong with most Americans is that they automatically class anybody south of the border as being jobless, living in a hovel and dodging bullets. That is NOT the lifestyle of the vast majority of Mexicans, Central Americans or Latin Americans for that matter. While it is true that in most places there is a 5 year gap between the technology that's available versus the US and that there's a lot of entrenched poverty (especially in rural areas) but Latin America overwhelmingly doesn't meet the average American's view of what a third world country is. To most Americans, Mexico and Afghanistan are interchangeable. This is simply not true.
And I'm an African American saying this, but the amount of ignorance Americans have concerning Mexico when they've had the biggest impact on our own culture in the last 40 years is ridiculous.
And who is behind most of that? It's the illegals from Mexico who are the first to claim that Mexico is so bad they can't live in it, being deported back to their homeland is worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews when they sent them to gas chambers.
The majority of Americans really don't travel much to Mexico and get their impressions of Mexico from it's people who make every excuse to come here illegally - very often claiming their children would starve to death if they had to return home, and insisting that the only way they can better themselves or be educated is to live illegally in the USA which gives the impression to people that there are no schools in Mexico. Yes it's a lie but you hear it all the time.
And more and more Mexicans themselves are insisting they be given "refugee" status and all the government assistance that goes with that, insisting they had to leave because it's too horrible for them in their country.
The people themselves are the best or worst ambassadors of a country. Just like Mexicans get impressions of Americans and the USA from the tourists who visit Mexico, Americans get impressions of Mexico by the illegals pouring over the border.
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Hmmmm. I've always held a high regard for native Mexicans, from my first job when I was 14 working in a car wash along side them to all of my encounters since then. Perhaps that's why I also hold the country of Mexico in the same regard. I've met a few people that I wouldn't want to hang out with, but to typecast anyone based on some stereotypical rant from any source, just doesn't make any sense to me.
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This thread has the potential to become a flame war, so far I'll leave it open because this is a discussion forum, some topics create controversy because they make others react passionately, please don't take things too personal and be objective, remember that if there is an idea you don't agree with you can attack the idea but never the poster, if this thread goes on the wrong direction it'll be closed.
If Mexico is not a 3rd world country than why are millions of illegal immigrants from Mexico living in the U.S ? The quality of life/standard of living in Mexico sure as hell is not comparible to that of Sweden and Japan that's for damn sure. According to the human development index, Mexico does not qualify as a fully developed nation.
The term Third World is from the XX century, there are currently developed countries with a high development index and developing countries of which Mexico is one that shows more progress.
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