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I believe a lot of this discussion could be better served by replacing "return to our indigenous cultures..." with "honor our indigenous cultures". Meaning, a modern person would only add to his/her life as they know it by enriching their cultural side. They'd learn the tongue of their heritage, read about and practice their historical religion (insofar as it doesn't interfere with modern laws- ie, sacrafice), and dress in cultural styles. By the way, there's nothing stopping anyone from doing this... Many people live this way every day in Mexico.
well I tried to listen to it but its all in spanish and I cant understand it. but I believe that the people of mexico should be just plain tired of the coruption in Mexico and the people, all the people should rise up and revolt about it, ban together and make a stand against all of it and fight for your country and the right to live free and make money and take care of your famillies. Its your country
Get rid of the Drug Lords and all of there sick ways. Too many of you are dying becasue of them. Stand up and fight them for what you beleive in. When you get a politian that is good and clean ban with him, plan a revolution like your ancestors did.
Take your country back.!!!!!!!
well I tried to listen to it but its all in spanish and I cant understand it. but I believe that the people of mexico should be just plain tired of the coruption in Mexico and the people, all the people should rise up and revolt about it, ban together and make a stand against all of it and fight for your country and the right to live free and make money and take care of your famillies. Its your country
Get rid of the Drug Lords and all of there sick ways. Too many of you are dying becasue of them. Stand up and fight them for what you beleive in. When you get a politian that is good and clean ban with him, plan a revolution like your ancestors did.
Take your country back.!!!!!!!
I'm going to ignore the simple ignorance of these statements and respond with, I hope, some information to shed some light on what you think is a country of fools who too afraid to fight for a better life for their families.
In December, 2006, Felipe Calderon was elected President. He vowed to continue the fight against the drug trade. He immediately sent 6500 troops to Michoacan to fight the activity there & to combat the many corrupt police who involved in drug trafficking. Many say that this started the current "war" between the cartel and the government (ala revolution). Today there are more than 25,000 troops involved in the fight. The problem is that it's becoming a blood bath.
In September 2008, grenade attacks in Morelia by suspected cartel members killed eight civilians and injured more than 100. In January 2009, a U.S. military assessment expressed concern that the war could cause a "rapid and sudden collapse" of the Mexican government due to the military strength of organized crime. I'm not sure how they are supposed to handle the problem. How would we handle the problem? You're probably saying that the US would never have such a problem. But you see, it's simple supply and demand economics. Mexican (Colombian, etc) cartels are making TONS of money supplying drugs to satisfy a real demand for them. It's business.
Oh, and by the way... Let's not forget that where all those drugs are headed... That's right, the good ole US of A.
I came across a youtube video I would like to share with you. It shows a contrast between Mexico today and the our indigenous cultures. It describes the current corruption in Mexico and it encourages us to return back to our indigenous roots when we were wise, artists, humble. It is very interesting perspective. Please share your thoughts.
I didn't understand anything in the video, mainly because I don't speak Spanish that well, but the pictures I saw did give me a glimpse between the indigenous culture of the Pre-Columbian days and today. The artistic side and the humility is a good thing. I think everyone as human beings should be more humble and get in touch with their artistic side. I believe that the only good thing brought over from the Old World to the New World is Christianity, which does teach humility and love and to do what Jesus would do. Sadly, the persons who brought that to the New World didn't practice what they preached. Slaughter and pillaging as well as corruption came. Corruption exists everywhere. Not just in Mexico. I personally feel that corruption is a sad part of human nature.. The thing to do in that case is to rise above it. Getting in tune with one's indigenous roots can be a good thing and can be inspiring.
My perspective is that corruption is a sad part of the human condition and one must rise about that influence.
I believe a lot of this discussion could be better served by replacing "return to our indigenous cultures..." with "honor our indigenous cultures". Meaning, a modern person would only add to his/her life as they know it by enriching their cultural side. They'd learn the tongue of their heritage, read about and practice their historical religion (insofar as it doesn't interfere with modern laws- ie, sacrafice), and dress in cultural styles. By the way, there's nothing stopping anyone from doing this... Many people live this way every day in Mexico.
And that is exactly my point!
Now to be realistic, it would be imposible to bring back all dialects not to mention the cost. I do believe children in school should have an opportunity to at least learn some basic Nahuatl. We do have a dictionary in circulation of the Nahuatl language. I have one. It is to our benefit to learn the language, learn our real history and teach the real history of our indigenous cultures. We owe it to our ancestors and it is only fair to teach what is real to our future generations. More and more, "danza indigena" is being lost. You see in school children dancing to folklore music such as "rancheras, guapangos" etc but less of indigenous. Only those states that have a larger population of indigenous people practice it. It should be mandatory in the schools.
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It should, really? Why you must bind some one of Veracruz not to dance huapangos, if is still part of this culture, or some one of Nuevo Leon, dance polka? that is not indigenous? of course, because we are a Mestizo Country, not indigenous one...
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It should, really? Why you must bind some one of Veracruz not to dance huapangos, if is still part of this culture, or some one of Nuevo Leon, dance polka? that is not indigenous? of course, because we are a Mestizo Country, not indigenous one...
this is true, and that's what makes Mexico special
It should, really? Why you must bind some one of Veracruz not to dance huapangos, if is still part of this culture, or some one of Nuevo Leon, dance polka? that is not indigenous? of course, because we are a Mestizo Country, not indigenous one...
I see your point and I should be clear that it does not make sense to learn a dance from a different state. Although it has been done.
In my hometown, polkas are very common to learn in school eventhough it is not the state of Nuevo Leon. However, it does not make sense to learn "la danza de los viejitos" when it originates from Michoacan and I'm from Zacatecas. I think it should be a local tribal dance.
I agree with you and TF, what makes Mexico unique from other countries is that we trully have a different culture in each state and yet we are all Mexicanos. I love that...
^^ lol, when I was a kid, (uuuuuuu!) i dance in the school the ¨danza de los viejitos¨ and I was in Nuevo Leon, I was last year in the night show of Xcaret, and was wonderful see all the dances of all the mexican states, some are indigenous, but the majority are mixed styles european with mexican...as we are...
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^^ lol, when I was a kid, (uuuuuuu!) i dance in the school the ¨danza de los viejitos¨ and I was in Nuevo Leon, I was last year in the night show of Xcaret, and was wonderful see all the dances of all the mexican states, some are indigenous, but the majority are mixed styles european with mexican...as we are...
True, Xcaret rocks huh? do they still perform charreadas?
Let's try and talk about Mestizo culture then.
La virgen de Guadalupe comes to mind, el mole poblano is another example where colonial elements like almonds and sesame seed blend with indigenous elements like chile, chocolate and turkey.
Mexicas didn't drink chocolate (xocoatl) with milk and it was a drink destined to the gods as an offering only, the spaniards were the ones who added milk to the mix, and felt like Gods while drinking it.
regards!
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