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Old 02-21-2015, 08:21 PM
 
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Milwaukee is either the 2nd poorest right behind Detroit or the 4th poorest depending on who you want to listen to. It surprised me to read that. What do the Poorest 10 Cities in America Have in Common?

Although Milwaukee doesn't seem economically vibrant it didn't seem like a third world country that it is made out to be.
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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Well, when you have a governor turning down federal and private investment in things like rail, arenas, and casinos, what do you expect?
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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Historically, Milwaukee was a city that was quite economically viable, with a strong manufacturing base, strong bond ratings, and a relatively low poverty rate. I guess things have changed in the past few decades...
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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This title is a little misleading. It is the 50 largest cities, which have the highest percent in poverty, not average income or medium income or anything else. Also, keep in mind cities in the 30th place or so have 18% percent of their population in poverty. Cities such as Dallas, Minneapolis, New York, etc are only 6 or 7 percent points better. The gap isn't all that large and a new survey can change a cities standing from 4th to 15th real quick.
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:36 AM
 
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I think this keeps it in prospetive how Milwaukee fits in. Number 63 and check the cities in front of them. Milwaukee is far from the only city dealing with poverty

This survey is a bit different, but it shows how close all the cities are and it is for the largest 101 cities not top 50. If all cities of all size where included Milwaukee would be no where to be seen on any list.
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1. Monroe, LA (housing, pop. 51,555): 32.3%
2. Bronx, NY (housing, pop. 1,332,650): 30.7%
3. Hartford, CT (housing, pop. 124,512): 30.6%
4. Saginaw, MI (housing, pop. 57,523): 28.5%
5. Miami, FL (housing, pop. 404,048): 28.4%
6. Newark, NJ (housing, pop. 281,402): 28.4%
7. New Orleans, LA (housing, pop. 223,388): 27.9%
8. Syracuse, NY (housing, pop. 140,658): 27.3%
9. Albany, GA (housing, pop. 75,335): 27.1%
10. Mission, TX (housing, pop. 63,272): 26.9%
11. Buffalo, NY (housing, pop. 276,059): 26.6%
12. Flint, MI (housing, pop. 117,068): 26.4%
13. Cleveland, OH (housing, pop. 444,313): 26.3%
14. Fresno, CA (housing, pop. 466,714): 26.2%
15. Detroit, MI (housing, pop. 871,121): 26.1%
16. Reading, PA (housing, pop. 81,183): 26.1%
17. Rochester, NY (housing, pop. 208,123): 25.9%
18. Gary, IN (housing, pop. 97,715): 25.8%
19. Pine Bluff, AR (housing, pop. 51,758): 25.5%
20. Macon, GA (housing, pop. 93,665): 25.5%
21. Port Arthur, TX (housing, pop. 55,745): 25.2%
22. Brooklyn, NY (housing, pop. 2,465,326): 25.1%
23. Harlingen, TX (housing, pop. 64,202): 24.9%
24. Youngstown, OH (housing, pop. 81,520): 24.8%
25. Birmingham, AL (housing, pop. 229,424): 24.7%
26. St. Louis, MO (housing, pop. 347,181): 24.6%
27. Utica, NY (housing, pop. 59,082): 24.5%
28. Atlanta, GA (housing, pop. 486,411): 24.4%
29. New Haven, CT (housing, pop. 124,001): 24.4%
30. Lawrence, MA (housing, pop. 70,662): 24.3%
31. Baton Rouge, LA (housing, pop. 229,553): 24.0%
32. North Miami, FL (housing, pop. 57,670): 23.9%
33. Stockton, CA (housing, pop. 290,141): 23.9%
34. McAllen, TX (housing, pop. 126,411): 23.8%
35. Daytona Beach, FL (housing, pop. 64,183): 23.6%
36. Jackson, MS (housing, pop. 176,614): 23.5%
37. Las Cruces, NM (housing, pop. 86,268): 23.3%
38. North Charleston, SC (housing, pop. 87,482): 23.2%
39. Springfield, MA (housing, pop. 151,176): 23.1%
40. Dayton, OH (housing, pop. 156,771): 23.0%
41. Baltimore, MD (housing, pop. 631,366): 22.9%
42. Philadelphia, PA (housing, pop. 1,448,394): 22.9%
43. Long Beach, CA (housing, pop. 472,494): 22.8%
44. Rosemead, CA (housing, pop. 54,991): 22.8%
45. Shreveport, LA (housing, pop. 200,199): 22.8%
46. Inglewood, CA (housing, pop. 114,914): 22.5%
47. Yakima, WA (housing, pop. 82,805): 22.4%
48. Galveston, TX (housing, pop. 57,523): 22.3%
49. El Paso, TX (housing, pop. 609,415): 22.2%
50. Paterson, NJ (housing, pop. 148,708): 22.2%
51. Los Angeles, CA (housing, pop. 3,849,378): 22.1%
52. Pontiac, MI (housing, pop. 67,124): 22.1%
53. National City, CA (housing, pop. 60,960): 22.0%
54. Cincinnati, OH (housing, pop. 332,252): 21.9%
55. Miami Beach, FL (housing, pop. 86,916): 21.8%
56. Savannah, GA (housing, pop. 127,889): 21.8%
57. Fort Myers, FL (housing, pop. 60,531): 21.8%
58. Augusta, GA (housing, pop. 138,000): 21.7%
59. West Dougherty, GA (housing, pop. 59,680): 21.5%
60. Highland, CA (housing, pop. 51,550): 21.5%
61. Union City, NJ (housing, pop. 63,930): 21.4%
62. Richmond, VA (housing, pop. 192,913): 21.4%
63. Milwaukee, WI (housing, pop. 573,358): 21.4%
64. Wilmington, DE (housing, pop. 72,826): 21.3%

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Old 02-22-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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A list of the top 100 poorest cities in America. NO MILWAUKEE

This takes in income. Enough of the poorest city in America non sense.


Locations over 1,000 population (2008-12 American Community Survey)[edit]
The data below are for annual median household income, based on 2008–2012 American Community Survey data from the U.S. Census Bureau, and with populations from the 2010 U.S. Census.[1] Only places with a population over 1,000 are included, as data on locations with small populations often has a very high margin of error.

For comparison, the median household income for the United States is $53,046.[1]

Rank Place State Popul. 2008-2012 Annual
Median Household Income White Black API Native Latino
1 Blackwater AZ 1,062 $9,491 2.3% 0.5% 0.1% 72.1% 22.1%
2 Muniz TX 1,106 $11,711 0.2% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 99.8%
3 Beattyville KY 1,307 $12,361 96.4% 1.0% 0.1% 0.2% 1.5%
4 University Park[Note 1] NM 4,192 $12,788 42.0% 4.0% 6.5% 4.5% 39.6%
5 Tchula MS 2,096 $12,806 1.6% 96.7% 0.2% 0.0% 1.1%
6 Jamestown TN 1,959 $13,060 95.3% 0.1% 0.0% 0.7% 2.7%
7 Yanceyville NC 2,039 $13,505 38.2% 54.0% 0.5% 0.4% 3.6%
8 Campti LA 1,056 $13,693 26.9% 69.9% 0.2% 0.4% 0.8%
9 Cullen LA 1,163 $13,711 12.7% 85.3% 0.2% 0.0% 1.1%
10 Sneedville TN 1,387 $13,719 97.1% 0.6% 0.1% 0.3% 0.3%
11 Las Palmas-Juarez TX 1,605 $13,750 4.8% 0.0% 0.2% 0.0% 95.0%
12 Melville LA 1,041 $14,328 45.0% 51.9% 0.2% 0.2% 1.8%
13 Clarks LA 1,017 $14,479 50.8% 46.2% 0.3% 0.2% 1.9%
14 Meigs GA 1,035 $14,583 28.5% 64.0% 0.0% 0.1% 6.3%
15 Ferriday LA 3,511 $14,662 15.4% 83.3% 0.3% 0.2% 0.3%
16 Morgantown KY 2,394 $14,916 89.0% 0.6% 0.3% 0.0% 9.5%
17 Unionville GA 1,845 $15,186 0.9% 95.8% 0.1% 0.3% 2.2%
18 Cibecue AZ 1,713 $15,208 0.8% 0.1% 1.7% 95.2% 1.9%
19 Lumber City GA 1,328 $15,363 47.6% 51.0% 0.0% 0.1% 1.1%
20 Munfordville KY 1,615 $15,519 84.5% 11.8% 0.6% 0.1% 1.4%
21 Columbus NM 1,664 $15,583 11.8% 0.1% 0.0% 0.8% 85.9%
22 Rosedale MS 1,873 $15,789 12.7% 86.5% 0.1% 0.1% 0.2%
23 Vanceburg KY 1,518 $16,067 97.8% 0.3% 0.0% 0.4% 0.5%
24 Brooksville MS 1,223 $16,071 15.5% 82.5% 0.1% 0.1% 1.0%
25 Bishopville SC 3,471 $16,103 26.0% 70.9% 0.8% 0.3% 1.2%
26 Shelby MS 2,229 $16,322 4.7% 94.3% 0.0% 0.0% 0.8%
27 Pine Knot KY 1,621 $16,432 91.3% 4.9% 0.2% 0.7% 1.4%
28 Boone[Note 1] NC 17,122 $16,447 89.9% 3.4% 1.5% 0.2% 3.3%
29 Niland CA 1,006 $16,458 29.7% 2.8% 2.0% 1.8% 61.4%
30 Olmito TX 1,210 $16,507 3.6% 0.0% 0.0% 0.6% 95.8%
31 South Henderson NC 1,213 $16,559 30.9% 49.2% 0.3% 0.0% 18.2%
32 Roberta GA 1,007 $16,587 50.3% 43.7% 1.5% 0.0% 3.1%
33 Mosses AL 1,029 $16,713 1.5% 96.7% 0.0% 0.0% 1.8%
34 Fort Gaines GA 1,107 $16,726 24.1% 74.3% 0.1% 0.0% 0.3%
35 Banks Springs LA 1,192 $16,727 42.9% 52.8% 0.8% 0.1% 1.8%
36 Livingston AL 3,485 $16,736 34.4% 63.8% 0.3% 0.1% 0.7%
37 Pirtleville AZ 1,744 $16,914 3.6% 0.3% 0.2% 0.5% 95.3%
38 Fairfax SC 2,025 $16,976 19.1% 78.6% 0.6% 0.1% 1.5%
39 Cairo IL 2,831 $16,977 27.4% 69.6% 0.4% 0.2% 0.4%
40 Fayette MS 1,614 $17,083 1.6% 97.7% 0.0% 0.2% 0.2%
41 Century FL 1,698 $17,188 39.4% 55.8% 0.5% 0.4% 1.1%
42 Hughes AR 1,441 $17,212 23.4% 74.2% 0.6% 0.2% 1.1%
43 City View SC 1,345 $17,212 37.4% 27.6% 0.4% 0.2% 33.4%
44 Calwa CA 2,052 $17,228 4.5% 1.1% 2.2% 1.3% 90.1%
45 Roscommon MI 1,075 $17,321 95.5% 0.3% 0.8% 0.7% 0.2%
46 Harlem FL 2,658 $17,361 0.9% 95.5% 0.0% 0.2% 3.0%
47 Shaw MS 1,952 $17,391 6.4% 93.0% 0.1% 0.0% 0.3%
48 Statenville GA 1,040 $17,483 53.8% 11.6% 1.0% 2.1% 29.2%
49 Luxora AR 1,178 $17,614 33.1% 60.8% 0.0% 0.5% 4.6%
50 Ola AR 1,281 $17,614 79.1% 0.5% 0.5% 0.9% 18.0%
51 Baldwin MI 1,208 $17,621 61.7% 27.9% 0.1% 0.7% 4.9%
52 Parkin AR 1,105 $17,721 27.5% 69.4% 0.0% 0.6% 1.1%
53 Carbondale[Note 1] IL 25,902 $17,743 60.1% 25.3% 5.7% 0.3% 5.4%
54 Annville KY 1,095 $17,750 97.7% 0.1% 0.0% 0.1% 1.6%
55 Mansfield MO 1,296 $17,750 96.9% 0.6% 0.5% 0.3% 0.9%
56 Benton Harbor MI 10,038 $17,766 6.4% 88.7% 0.1% 0.3% 2.2%
57 Cullowhee[Note 1] NC 6,228 $17,775 84.6% 7.0% 1.2% 0.7% 5.1%
58 Brookdale SC 4,873 $17,839 0.7% 97.5% 0.2% 0.1% 0.7%
59 New Boston OH 2,272 $17,875 95.5% 1.1% 0.3% 0.1% 0.9%
60 Elizabethtown NC 3,583 $18,010 42.6% 50.7% 0.7% 0.4% 4.1%
61 Belhaven NC 1,688 $18,179 37.6% 55.1% 0.5% 0.5% 5.0%
62 Clay City KY 1,077 $18,205 96.6% 0.0% 0.5% 0.1% 2.0%
63 Pembroke NC 2,973 $18,220 15.8% 12.2% 0.8% 65.7% 2.2%
64 Clarksville TX 3,285 $18,232 40.2% 47.7% 0.4% 0.4% 9.6%
65 Sunflower MS 1,159 $18,299 12.0% 86.3% 0.0% 0.0% 1.6%
66 Reform AL 1,702 $18,313 50.4% 47.9% 0.0% 0.1% 0.9%
67 Waldo AR 1,372 $18,348 30.3% 67.2% 0.1% 0.1% 1.2%
68 Macon MS 2,768 $18,367 21.7% 77.0% 0.5% 0.1% 0.5%
69 Athens[Note 1] OH 23,832 $18,428 84.7% 4.3% 6.1% 0.1% 2.4%
70 Eudora AR 2,269 $18,438 9.1% 89.3% 0.0% 0.4% 1.0%
71 Medina TX 3,935 $18,446 2.0% 0.2% 0.0% 0.1% 97.7%
72 Alorton IL 2,002 $18,495 0.9% 97.5% 0.0% 0.0% 0.2%
73 Breckinridge Center KY 2,080 $18,536 50.0% 43.2% 1.3% 0.5% 4.0%
74 Goodman MS 1,386 $18,603 23.7% 74.2% 0.1% 0.1% 1.2%
75 Metcalfe MS 1,067 $18,625 3.4% 94.9% 0.1% 0.0% 1.0%
76 Lambert MS 1,638 $18,676 11.0% 88.3% 0.0% 0.1% 0.4%
77 Sebastian TX 1,917 $18,684 5.0% 0.3% 0.0% 0.1% 94.6%
78 Hayti MO 2,939 $18,712 51.9% 45.1% 0.3% 0.2% 1.0%
79 Shackelford CA 3,371 $18,764 16.3% 0.5% 1.4% 0.6% 79.6%
80 Rankin PA 2,122 $18,779 18.0% 76.8% 0.1% 0.3% 1.0%
81 Dermott AR 2,316 $18,795 20.1% 77.1% 0.7% 0.1% 1.0%
82 Celina TN 1,495 $18,830 94.5% 1.0% 0.1% 0.1% 3.1%
83 Aliceville AL 2,486 $18,847 22.6% 74.3% 0.0% 0.1% 1.2%
84 Maxton NC 2,426 $18,848 18.4% 65.0% 0.1% 13.6% 1.8%
85 Alto TX 1,225 $18,854 52.7% 24.7% 0.0% 0.0% 20.9%
86 Falfurrias TX 4,981 $18,884 7.0% 0.2% 0.3% 0.2% 92.0%
87 Citrus City TX 2,321 $18,925 12.6% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 87.3%
88 East Spencer NC 1,534 $18,942 11.3% 83.3% 0.0% 0.2% 2.4%
89 Lumberton MS 2,086 $18,950 42.1% 56.2% 0.0% 0.1% 1.5%
90 Renovo PA 1,228 $19,009 96.8% 0.1% 0.0% 0.1% 1.1%
91 Kentwood LA 2,198 $19,013 26.6% 71.7% 0.3% 0.1% 0.9%
92 Vado NM 3,194 $19,031 3.9% 0.4% 0.0% 0.2% 95.5%
93 Benton Heights MI 4,084 $19,033 27.2% 61.5% 0.1% 0.5% 8.1%
94 Wolfhurst OH 1,239 $19,067 93.9% 3.5% 0.4% 0.0% 0.2%
95 San Augustine TX 2,108 $19,067 36.4% 51.8% 0.4% 0.0% 10.5%
96 La Grulla TX 1,622 $19,094 1.8% 0.0% 0.0% 0.1% 98.1%
97 Reynolds Heights PA 2,061 $19,132 96.1% 1.2% 0.1% 0.0% 0.7%
98 Houck AZ 1,024 $19,138 1.2% 0.0% 0.1% 95.2% 2.0%
99 Biola CA 1,623 $19,167 5.5% 0.4% 19.3% 0.6% 73.7%
100 Mamou
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Old 02-22-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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A better definition would involve using the MSA as a standard of reference, for almost any city. Lots os wealth to the west and north of Milwaukee..

A city like Baltimore is quite poor ( all you need to do is look at it), but the suburbs are very wealthy..
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Old 02-22-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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OK, nothing to see here...

A survey that uses the percentage of people living in poverty to measure how poor a city is:

Misleading

Cherry picking completely different stats and pointing out that Milwaukee isn't on a list that starts with Blackwater, AZ and ends with Mamou, ??, with equally obsecure small towns in between proves that Milwaukee's poverty problems aren't any worse than a bunch of cities not on that list.

Any questions?

Perhaps if Milwaukee's apologists were as interested in solving problems as they are in pretending that they don't exist, Milwaukee wouldn't be the 2nd (or 4th) poorest city in America.
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Old 02-22-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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OK, nothing to see here...

A survey that uses the percentage of people living in poverty to measure how poor a city is:

Misleading

Cherry picking completely different stats and pointing out that Milwaukee isn't on a list that starts with Blackwater, AZ and ends with Mamou, ??, with equally obsecure small towns in between proves that Milwaukee's poverty problems aren't any worse than a bunch of cities not on that list.

Any questions?

Perhaps if Milwaukee's apologists were as interested in solving problems as they are in pretending that they don't exist, Milwaukee wouldn't be the 2nd (or 4th) poorest city in America.
I'm not an apologists concerning Milwaukee's poverty, I'm only pointing out how anyone can twist stats to fit whatever angle they are going for. It's clear there is poverty in Milwaukee. The point I'm making is, Milwaukee is not alone and it's poverty is really no different than most cites in it's class. This idea that Milwaukee is some stand out impoverd city, lumped in with Detroit is false. It is clear that most cities have the same problems - even more glamours cities such as Atlanta, L.A. and Brooklyn.

When people state the poorest city in America, well it isn't true. I'm sorry if these towns are small, but they are included as cities and therefore are included as part of the list, therefore Milwaukee is not one of the poorest cities in America.

Solving poverty problem in Milwaukee? How about the rest of the nation. You sound as if we are the only place with poor people. What about Minneapolis and St.Paul. Both cities have poverty rates over 20%, not much better. What's their problem? Why beat on Milwaukee, when this is a national problem.

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Old 02-22-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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ttp://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/27/2758000.html

The link above gives the data on poverty rates and other information.

St Paul 23.0% poverty
Minneapolis 22.5% poverty


Better than Milwaukee, but not by much. I guess this means that St.Paul and Minneapolis are also some of the poorest cities in America. Who would have thought this? They must be real slums.

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