Teaching in Milwaukee

[43north87west]

Originally Posted by KC3700

All of them with the exception of New York and Chicago (which aren't segregated) are cities that have problems.

Perhaps you would like to think otherwise, but New York and Chicago are segregated, as are Milwaukee, Detroit, and Gary. You can substantiate this with your own two eyes, by simply traveling to different areas of each city. Also, how or why did New York and Chicago get listed in the top 5 along with Milwaukee, if they are not segregated? Was it a typo?

Originally Posted by KC3700

As a result of segregation, people who actually are lucky enough to get jobs have to deal with extremely long commutes.

Does this not also apply to people in other cities, towns, and rural areas of the country? Is this a geographic or socioeconomic problem? Could this be affected by educational achievement? Is this issue specifically related to segregated areas of Milwaukee? And finally, what is an extremely long commute?

Originally Posted by KC3700

They are a lucky few, though, since your average racist businessman doesn't want to hire someone from 20th & Center.

The "average racist businessman"? This raises some questions.

Originally Posted by KC3700

I think that you and MC are getting my argument twisted.

The twisting is inherent to your argument.

[WilliamPacker]

I would like to bring this thread back up to the top because I have similar questions about MPS.

We are looking to move back to Wisconsin in the next year or two and Milwaukee is our target right now. I am not concerned too much about segregation but I would like to know more about MPS. Is it a district a young high school/middle school teacher should be looking at getting into? I know Milwaukee has trended towards going to charter schools but I hesitate to get back into a situation at a charter. I prefer to go the public school route. I know about MPS' poor reputation. I'm curious if the public high schools are going to survive in Milwaukee w/all the charters. What type of chance would I have at getting a position being a young Social Studies teacher? I have a bunch of other questions too so I would love to get the perspective of a MPS teacher or a teacher from a nearby district.

Thanks

[Milwaukee City]

MPS middle schools are better than the MPS high schools but that's not saying much. I would prefer to teach in one of the south side districts if I were teaching, for safety reasons mainly.

Here this link might help:School District Maps (http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/supt/SchoolDistrictMaps.html - broken link)

[TommyGavin]

It doesn't matter which MPS high school you would teach at, because of the city-wide busing.
There are some real issues with the secondary schools. There haven't been any "riots", such as the recent escapades at Vincent in any of the south side schools, such as Hamilton. But that is in no way an endorsement of the environment that exists at Hamilton. In the same breath, South Division has a security detail that rivals that of many suburban police departments.
Obviously, certain schools seem to draw more problems, but when some of the schools have a 40-50% truancy rate, or more, most of the problems aren't in the classroom.

For what it's worth, South Division and it's security presence, both seem to function fairly well. I am not a teacher, but have a significant amount of interaction with the school thru work. They're urban kids with urban problems that need people to deal with them who have an understanding of those issues. The administration that currently exists at South seems to be doing a decent job of that.

As long as MPS is able to operate outside of the city budget process it will survive.

[just1paul]

Originally Posted by KC3700

I wish I knew more about how MPS pays, but I don't. I do know that they are in financial trouble, though. The school board actually did a study on dissolving the district. They have closed 15 schools in the past few years. I think you'll like it here.

Only because of dropping enrollment. While us baby boomers were all in school they were all open and even expanded.

I too, think you would like it here.

I live in the Lower East side Brady Street area and my neighborhood is very diverse.

[city414]

Originally Posted by Allan Trafton

Milwaukee City - Why is it that people (even on this forum) fail to recognize the diversity of the south side. It's a mystery to me..

thats a good question many of the early immigrant groups such as polish people still live there and gather at some of the big catholic churches.

hispanics-various races/nationalities
american blacks
various european ethnic groups
american whites
native americans

[Milwaukee City]

Lets not forget the Asians along national ave!

[the fonz]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

MPS middle schools are better than the MPS high schools but that's not saying much. I would prefer to teach in one of the south side districts if I were teaching, for safety reasons mainly.

Here this link might help:School District Maps (http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/supt/SchoolDistrictMaps.html - broken link)

You like Chicago comparisons. Chicago schools are terrible. I wouldn't teach there as a ghost.