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Old 01-27-2012, 07:23 AM
 
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Well, the good thing is that you no longer have to live in this horrid state, right?

Indeed. I can now breath freely and finally try something new. Can't go anywhere but up now. I can also be a beacon to others that feel they can't escape that culture down there or feel they have to adjust who they are just to co-exist with the locals in the State..

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Old 01-27-2012, 07:26 AM
 
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As Mississippi?
Honestly, worse. Memphis had a mayor for 20 years that stirred the racial pot so to speak. Racism is called frequently in the schools, local government, workplaces, etc.

I think it's going to get better. They have a real mayor now who wants to see Memphis prosper.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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Memphis is extremely racist.

What was your encounter like? I'd be curious to know. have you been called a "N" to your face? anything extreme like that or what? Do racist acts beam across the local News regularly or what?

Because I frequent BBQ joints when I visit that are total mix of white/black elbow to nostril eating good and drinking beer. So I have to wonder what part of town are you in or visiting that you get this "extreme" racism?

and is it as extreme or more extreme than Mississippi's brand of racism?
 
Old 01-27-2012, 07:50 AM
 
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Green Bay, a city of 105,000 people is close to the Milwaukee CSA of 1.8 million people. Green Bay is the only small city NFL team left from the early days of the NFL when it was common for teams to be in smaller cities. It is Wisconsin's only NFL team and pulls it's fanbase from the entire state of 5.7 million.

As for Tupelo furniture, it is good. I have owned plenty of it. Just two brands made in Tupelo that come to mind are Lane and Ashley.

It's obvious that you are dead set on pointing out the negatives and ignoring the positives, while assuming the worst of every scenario.

Truckin, I wish you luck in Texas.
Dead set? no need to deflect your anger this way. I've spoken on the good things about Mississippi, go back and read the good, it's there. but the OP asks the question and the question shall be discussed adinfinitum if need be so people can really understand from various viewpoints if open racism still exists in Mississippi. These are MY viewpoints from living experience. and from MY experiences the racism is not "wide-open" but it's there. subtley. and that's a fact. and you can't deny that. if you do, you are lying. plain and simple.
..Now If you're having trouble conveying YOUR true feelings then by all means you can stop chiming in and find a new thread to go in. Matter of fact, You can start one about all the good things and I'll chime in on those too. ...Because I can approach any discussion about Mississippi and not get rattled because I was born, raised and damn near grew old there and if my words cut to the core then so be it. they need to. Far too long people in Mississippi put this "It's a Wonderful Life" pitch to the nation but they don't know the truth behind that Big Lie. When they actually move in and live here they quickly get the breakdown on the caste-like system that's in place in the state. You either get with it, or move away. That's how Mississippi operates. One culture, one way, no exceptions. It's a Socialistic segregated mindset thats preached and perpetuated. It's suppose to be the heart of the Bible belt although I doubt anybody white or black follows the Bible, just thumps it in all directions like zealous heatens. yeah, that's the Mississippi I grew up in. And I'm glad I moved away from that.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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Honestly, worse. Memphis had a mayor for 20 years that stirred the racial pot so to speak. Racism is called frequently in the schools, local government, workplaces, etc.

I think it's going to get better. They have a real mayor now who wants to see Memphis prosper.
lol...worse?...C'mon on now. I've been to Memphis quite a bit. "extreme racism"? I've never gotten. sorry. Not even extreme racist looks. Maybe you're imagining things and just get tensed up walking around in Memphis.?? extreme racism...in Memphis? I'm baffled at that one.

Well, If you are gettting that kind of racism, I suggest you might not even need to go to Memphis ever again...wow..that's...peculiar.

And you want to about a racsm in schools? haha...look no further that JPS schools my friend...but that's a whole nother can of topic worms.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Dead set? no need to deflect your anger this way. I've spoken on the good things about Mississippi, go back and read the good, it's there. but the OP asks the question and the question shall be discussed adinfinitum if need be so people can really understand from various viewpoints if open racism still exists in Mississippi. These are MY viewpoints from living experience. and from MY experiences the racism is not "wide-open" but it's there. subtley. and that's a fact. and you can't deny that. if you do, you are lying. plain and simple.
..Now If you're having trouble conveying YOUR true feelings then by all means you can stop chiming in and find a new thread to go in. Matter of fact, You can start one about all the good things and I'll chime in on those too. ...Because I can approach any discussion about Mississippi and not get rattled because I was born, raised and damn near grew old there and if my words cut to the core then so be it. they need to. Far too long people in Mississippi put this "It's a Wonderful Life" pitch to the nation but they don't know the truth behind that Big Lie. When they actually move in and live here they quickly get the breakdown on the caste-like system that's in place in the state. You either get with it, or move away. That's how Mississippi operates. One culture, one way, no exceptions. It's a Socialistic segregated mindset thats preached and perpetuated. It's suppose to be the heart of the Bible belt although I doubt anybody white or black follows the Bible, just thumps it in all directions like zealous heatens. yeah, that's the Mississippi I grew up in. And I'm glad I moved away from that.
No anger at all, and I really am happy that you are happy in Texas. This thread went from racism to sports teams and cheap furniture. Way off topic.

I just don't think you understand why Mississippi doesn't have some of the same things other states do. It seems you assume it's because Mississippi is not willing, or is resistant.

Pro sports teams require investors and an adequate population to draw a fanbase, as well as a large television market. Mississippi is a poor state with a small population.

Take Tennessee for example. It's population is 6.3 million, yet it only acquired an NFL team in 1999. Why do you think that is? Why do you think Mississippi could support an NFL team with less than half the population? Why do you think they are called the Tennessee Titans instead of the Nashville Titans? To draw it's fanbase from the entire state.

Put an NFL team in Memphis and watch it fail. Put one in Birmingham and watch it fail. Put one in Little Rock and watch it fail. You need the money and a population base to support it.

You are also assuming that the furniture made in Mississippi is cheap because it's made in Mississippi, and the furniture made in other states is good because it's made in other states. That's the attitude i'm talking about. Misconceptions based on your own perception.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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No anger at all, and I really am happy that you are happy in Texas. This thread went from racism to sports teams and cheap furniture. Way off topic.

I just don't think you understand why Mississippi doesn't have some of the same things other states do. It seems you assume it's because Mississippi is not willing, or is resistant.

Pro sports teams require investors and an adequate population to draw a fanbase, as well as a large television market. Mississippi is a poor state with a small population.

Take Tennessee for example. It's population is 6.3 million, yet it only acquired an NFL team in 1999. Why do you think that is? Why do you think Mississippi could support an NFL team with less than half the population? Why do you think they are called the Tennessee Titans instead of the Nashville Titans? To draw it's fanbase from the entire state.

Put an NFL team in Memphis and watch it fail. Put one in Birmingham and watch it fail. Put one in Little Rock and watch it fail. You need the money and a population base to support it.
No, I do understand, That's why I moved away. Do you understand that?

And as I've already stated, Mississippi was never set up to be a major economic player in the big scope of city/state growth and progress in America. And that's unfortuante but it is what it is. I call it the "Ultimate Retirement Community" for a reason because that's what it's become.

I truly believe that the planners of this great nation hand-picked the areas in which they wanted to have the major metropolitans and the major retirement areas. Florida, Alabama and Mississippi are 3 of those major retirement areas. I'll throw in Branson, Missouri for good measure, a SERIOUS hub of retirees.

And a quick note on football teams, the Saints or Titans could move anywhere within Mississippi and the same fans would support the team even if NOBODY in Mississippi ever bought a ticket. you have to realize that Tennessee, Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi all share the SAME market. that's why you have more Saints fans in Mississippi than Louisiana. Making excuses as to why the team can't work in Mississippi is ridiculous when it's already happening. Do you realize how much money is spent on the Saints and Titans merchandise by Missississppi fans alone? LOTS. not only that, Mississippi folk travel well, they follow the teams. most Saints fans are too cheap to drive to Nashville. but Mississippi folk will drive to Memphis, New Orleans and Nashville in a heart beat. so don't tell me it can't work..It's working now!

and the Saints used Jackson to practice in. it can work.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 08:44 AM
 
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No, I do understand, That's why I moved away. Do you understand that?

And as I've already stated, Mississippi was never set up to be a major economic player in the big scope of city/state growth and progress in America. And that's unfortuante but it is what it is. I call it the "Ultimate Retirement Community" for a reason because that's what it's become.

I truly believe that the planners of this great nation hand-picked the areas in which they wanted to have the major metropolitans and the major retirement areas. Florida, Alabama and Mississippi are 3 of those major retirement areas. I'll throw in Branson, Missouri for good measure, a SERIOUS hub of retirees.

And a quick note on football teams, the Saints or Titans could move anywhere within Mississippi and the same fans would support the team even if NOBODY in Mississippi ever bought a ticket. you have to realize that Tennessee, Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi all share the SAME market. that's why you have more Saints fans in Mississippi than Louisiana. Making excuses as to why the team can't work in Mississippi is ridiculous when it's already happening. Do you realize how much money is spent on the Saints and Titans merchandise by Missississppi fans alone? LOTS. not only that, Mississippi folk travel well, they follow the teams. most Saints fans are too cheap to drive to Nashville. but Mississippi folk will drive to Memphis, New Orleans and Nashville in a heart beat. so don't tell me it can't work..It's working now!

and the Saints used Jackson to practice in. it can work.
Most of the Saints fans in Mississippi are on the coast, but Saints fans in Louisiana far outnumber Mississippi Saints fans... let's be realistic. You move the Saints to Jackson and you will lose the Saints franchise my friend. Practicing in Jackson and moving the team there are two different things.

Move the Saints to Jackson, change the name to the Mississippi Saints and the team will lose the identity that Louisiana supports the Saints for. You could no longer call them the New Orleans Saints if they are in Jackson.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I truly believe that the planners of this great nation hand-picked the areas in which they wanted to have the major metropolitans and the major retirement areas. Florida, Alabama and Mississippi are 3 of those major retirement areas. I'll throw in Branson, Missouri for good measure, a SERIOUS hub of retirees.
If that's what you truly believe, then why have this conversation? All is as it should be, set forth by the United States government.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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Most of the Saints fans in Mississippi are on the coast, but Saints fans in Louisiana far outnumber Mississippi Saints fans... let's be realistic. You move the Saints to Jackson and you will lose the Saints franchise my friend. Practicing in Jackson and moving the team there are two different things.

Move the Saints to Jackson, change the name to the Mississippi Saints and the team will lose the identity that Louisiana supports the Saints for. You could no longer call them the New Orleans Saints if they are in Jackson.
Wrong. Ever heard of Duece McAllister? He's from Lena, Mississippi. He played for Ole Miss and set/broke records. He paved the way for the Saints to be so dominant in the NFL today. he opend the door for Ricky Williams and Drew Brees to exist in New Orleans. the Saints were trash until Duece showed up. Duece is from Mississippi. you think his fanbase in Mississippi is only on the coast? LOL...Duece has more fans in Mississippi AND Louisiana than the entire state of Louisiana and Mississippi combined...are you kidding me? I have his jersey and I'm not even a Saints fan. Everybody I know has his jersey.

Most fans of the Saints on the coast?...that's funny.


and how will they lose fans? I don't get that. teams move all the time. they don't lose fans. if anything they gain more of them.


Jazz didn't lose their identity when they moved to Utah from New Orleans.
Lakers didn't lose their identity when they moved from Minneapolis.

fact is, their identities got stronger and better. the Jazz were in the playoffs every year for years. and the Lakers, they just dominated the league since forever after they moved.

so your ananlysis makes no sense.

they could be the Jackson Saints(sounds better) and not skip a beat. and watch how the Drew Brees jerseys pick up in sales.

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