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Old 05-03-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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It isn't Obama's fault that rural, and primarily southern and western districts, aren't prepared to live in this century. If you think health insurance rates will increase by 30 or 40 percent, you clearly haven't bothered to learn about what the law actually does and doesn't do, and you lack math skills.
Honestly, what you posted makes no sense at all. We, in the rural areas, will survive better than any of you poor urban boys. When all heck lets loose, I can guarantee that you and the other Obama lovers will be looking for good old redneck boys to help you because our redneck hillbillies know how to make cars run, know how to hunt and fish and build whatever is needed. You don't my friend. So, go ahead and make fun and post the ridiculous things like you do, but you urban people are the ones who will be begging for the southern and western peopl's help.

BTW, the insurance is raising their rates as we post here and you are the one who knows not what the truth is. Even Obama's administration has admitted that insurance rates are raising, so you might want to check your own facts, which are wrong, before posting misstatements.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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It isn't Obama's fault that rural, and primarily southern and western districts, aren't prepared to live in this century. If you think health insurance rates will increase by 30 or 40 percent, you clearly haven't bothered to learn about what the law actually does and doesn't do, and you lack math skills.
I know personal responsibility is a difficult concept to grasp, but it is Obama's fault that his policies don't work. It is not even worth my time linking to the dozens of articles discussing how health insurance premiums are skyrocketing due to Obamacare when he promised it would have the opposite effect.

And you are dancing on the grave of the GOP a little early. We'll see in 2014 what a political albatross the so-called Affordable Care Act is around the necks of those democrats running in contested districts then.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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NO BODY IS COMING AFTER YOUR OR MY GUNS

Obama vows to keep at gun control: 'This is just the first round' - First Read=
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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I know personal responsibility is a difficult concept to grasp, but it is Obama's fault that his policies don't work. It is not even worth my time linking to the dozens of articles discussing how health insurance premiums are skyrocketing due to Obamacare when he promised it would have the opposite effect.

And you are dancing on the grave of the GOP a little early. We'll see in 2014 what a political albatross the so-called Affordable Care Act is around the necks of those democrats running in contested districts then.

Are you saying you have a problem with personal responsibility?
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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^ I think he's saying it is somehow Obama's fault that the backward parts of the country are too backward to make good policy, and that it's also his fault that those parts of the country have stood in the way of every sane thing his administration has attempted to achieve. It's pretty faulty reasoning.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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Rebelwoman? That's really your handle? Do you actually live in Missouri?
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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^ I think he's saying it is somehow Obama's fault that the backward parts of the country are too backward to make good policy, and that it's also his fault that those parts of the country have stood in the way of every sane thing his administration has attempted to achieve. It's pretty faulty reasoning.
Perhaps reading comprehension is a lost art.

It's Obama's fault (i.e. his personal responsibility) that his polices don't work. That has nothing to do with the rural parts of the country you (and Obama) disdain.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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First, I didn't know that his policies weren't working, if you are referring to the ACA, since it won't fully take effect until 2014. Evidently you have a time machine. I, for instance, have seen no change in insurance premiums. I know people who due to the 80%/85% rule, have received REFUNDS from their insurers. Most of the scaremongering is from AM talk radio or from businesses that themselves haven't read the law or had it explained to them by accountants etc familiar with the law, and as such they are in no position to talk let alone have an opinion on the matter until they are informed. There is widespread consensus among economists that the Obama stimulus - which was sharply cut by rural Republicans - was one of the only things that kept us out of a second depression, and make no mistake - this austerity and sequester thing we're doing in the name of balanced budgets, is a mistake. It is well known that the current Republican House majority only exists as a result of extensive Gerrymandering, and that with non-politically drawn districts, the House would be at a tie or a slight Democratic majority. It is well known that the Tea Party and the GOP's support is sharply lower in more developed counties, and outside the south and far west, both of which for the most part lack real cities, infrastructure, and civic investment. I believe he has done everything possible to work with these clowns and still accomplish something useful during his time in office. He is right not to negotiate further with them, as they are essentially economic terrorists pushing an inferior cultural and economic agenda. We should have finished reconstruction, or maybe we should resume reconstruction, because the clearly visible cultural divide is not helping us, let alone the fact that one side's culture is objectively inferior. Let's also not forget who started two ongoing, expensive, and completely unnecessary wars, and did nothing to regulate the trading of derivatives and other obscure but powerful financial products that got us into this mess in the first place. So that's that. But I guess 4 people dying in Behghazi and a Dept of Energy loan to Solyndra is way more important.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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the last poster wouldnt think the way they do about bengazi if they knew one of them.
typical democrat communist
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Republicans are getting way over the top. Some many new gun laws pretty soon we will be required to carry in Mo. Lat month it was anew republican law so farmers can sell vehicles left on their property that are ten years old up from the 20 year requirement! Caused St Louis old car thefts to jump 37%. STUPID IDEA!

What are the actually doing to help our economy?

Missouri bill prevents businesses from restricting guns - KansasCity.com

The bill would also protect business owners from liability for any injury or damage that results from allowing guns to be legally carried in cars. It exempts owners of hotels, motels and apartment complexes.

Businesses would still be able to restrict firearms being carried in company cars.

The House voted 119-36 on Thursday to send the measure to the Senate. It is sponsored by Republican Rep. Stanley Cox, of Sedalia

Read more here: Missouri bill prevents businesses from restricting guns - KansasCity.com
If you don't like the laws of the state you are in, you are always welcome to move. Obama hasn't made that illegal, yet.

20yrsinBranson
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