Why all these new guns laws and no economy cares? (Republic: employment, bankrupt)

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by STLviaMSP

Anyone that calls FDR a dumbass is suspect in my book. Read some history, why don't you. The Depression was easing in 1937, until Congress instituted.............(drumroll).............aust erity! Congress became focused on balanced budgets instead of keeping people working and keeping money flowing. When you have a major economic downturn and employers aren't hiring, then it is up to the public sector to hire. That is what stimulus is. If you can't understand that, then you are the ****ing dumbass, not Roosevelt. Your idea of the GOP taking back power, though, is basically a fantasy. We are in the middle of a realignment leftward. Unless the GOP is willing to drop the fake American southern baptist evangelicals and their hatred for modernity, it is and will continue to be a party in the past tense, and/or confined to the south and far west. It's that simple.

Wishful thinking. 2010 - republican landslide of historic proportions in the house, senate and in the states. We currently have a record number of republican governors. Democrats have pretty much given up any hope of retaking the house in 2014.

Who knows about 2016, but let's just say I'm not too concerned about Hillary. The death of the GOP is greatly exaggerated.

[Curmudgeon]

Page after page of non-Missouri-centered, partisan drivel. This belongs in the Politics and other Insanities Forum, not here.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Page after page of non-Missouri-centered, partisan drivel. This belongs in the Politics and other Insanities Forum, not here.

You betcha. Curious why Versatile starts so many political threads attacking republicans, which is apparently ok, but then the threads get closed when those with contrary viewpoints respond.

[denverian]

Originally Posted by Flyover_Country

The aging population as the Baby Boomers are retiring is a *small* part of the lower labor participation rate. The real reason is that businesses are sitting on cash rather than expanding as they are trying to ride out the reign of socialist Democrats. Obama and the Democrats are heavily anti-capitalist, as evidenced by their actions over the past 4+ years. Obamacare and the unelected EPA are major drivers as businesses are hoarding cash to pay penalties from Obama telling certain industries that "we will bankrupt you" as well as the massive cost increases/penalties from Obamacare. That leads to lower employment as companies keep paring off all but the absolute most essential employees and divisions in order to preserve their margins and reduce their fine cross-section. The 50 employee/30 hour limit in Obamacare is a big factor here if you look at the latest job numbers. Twice as many people were involuntarily forced from full time to part time jobs than "new" jobs were created. We have about as many people employed today as we did in the early 1980s...when we had FAR fewer people in the country.

So in summary, there was a small recession in 2005-2006 when the housing market bubble burst, which was really due being massively bid-up due to cheap government-persuaded loans being offered. That bubble would have been a little dip in the road except we had Obama get elected. He did the same crap F***ing Dumb*ss Roosevelt did and lo and behold we had the same outcome- a prolonged depression. Ditto with the Supreme Court shredding the Constitution- the "Switch in Time that Saved Nine" was an embarrassment just as was "Obamacare is a tax on a lack of activity." At least FDR's lifetime reign of ruin led us to have term limits and Obama has to go in 2016. Hopefully saner minds will prevail and we'll start the slow process of pulling out of Obama's disastrous reign with a series of conservative adults in office cleaning up the mess the infantile Democrats left behind. I am hoping that will happen, otherwise we'll simply get to the same point later and with much more misery in between. I am floored that the supposedly pro-scientific liberals are willing to completely ignore the evidence of literally the entire field of psychology and economics during about the past 90 years. Keynes was wrong, Marx was wrong, and Pavlov was right. Give people free stuff and they won't work. Tax income and people won't work. You can't borrow your way out of debt. Disarming people will embolden criminals, including the government. It's that simple but they can't get out of the way of their own corruption to see it.

The scary thing is you believe what you typed! Talk about revising history But then I assume you get your "news" and opinions from Feaux news.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

The continued shrinking percentage of people participating in the labor market is a huge result of changes in demographics as a larger and larger percentage of the population is now retired and no longer working. You can spin the stats different ways, but net job growth has been positive for a number of years now. It will take awhile to recover every single job that was lost in a short time period when the Great Recession hit everything the hardest in 2008.

Don't blame it on retirees:

Chart of the Day: Don't Blame the Shrinking Workforce on Retirees - Daniel Indiviglio - The Atlantic

[GunnerTHB]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Page after page of non-Missouri-centered, partisan drivel. This belongs in the Politics and other Insanities Forum, not here.

Pretty much spot on. Even non-residents and recent transplants seem to be getting in on the fun.

[Versatile]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

You betcha. Curious why Versatile starts so many political threads attacking republicans, which is apparently ok, but then the threads get closed when those with contrary viewpoints respond.

I haven't said close anything at all.

[Versatile]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Page after page of non-Missouri-centered, partisan drivel. This belongs in the Politics and other Insanities Forum, not here.

You still haven't answered the question.

What are the actually doing to help our economy?

PS Both you guys said you ere going to put me on IGNORE! You must like me!::think

[ozarksboy]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Page after page of non-Missouri-centered, partisan drivel. This belongs in the Politics and other Insanities Forum, not here.

The OP's offerings here have little to do with Missouri life. They also have little to do with the English language. I think he/she is a transplant from another country who has not mastered our rules of grammar.

Or maybe he/she just didn't pay much attention in school.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

Don't blame it on retirees:

Chart of the Day: Don't Blame the Shrinking Workforce on Retirees - Daniel Indiviglio - The Atlantic

You get a rep point because you actually cited a source. I would definitely agree with the fact that we need stronger job growth numbers on a monthly basis, but I am confident things continue to improve. Some people might have to move to where job growth is occurring instead of continuously complaining that no jobs exist in their small city or town. I have had to move several times due to job related concerns, but I always made sure to do a good bit of research to see how the overall economy was performing in the city and surrounding county before I moved. Lots of variability can exist on the micro level when it pertains to job growth or decline.