Avengers: Infinity War (Psycho, foreign, mistakes, features)
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I heard an early rumor that Avengers 4 (IW2) would begin five years after the conclusion of IW...that the world and the Avengers would have been dealing with the aftermath for years before being able to reverse it.
If that were the case, it would be very neat. Bringing everyone back five years later, rather than making it "like it never even happened" would maintain the high stakes of failure that the first part created and wouldn't be a story cheat.
OTOH, it would screw up the Spider-man sequel, so that won't happen.
And not to mention the BP sequel and the GotG sequel, which is going to feature more of guess which character?.... Gamora.
considering that BP is the biggest non avengers superhero film, I don’t think anyone expected it to outgross Infinity War (A3) in terms of worldwide grosses.
Stateside, A3 will not outgross BP ($700mil), and will likely settle with an over/under $655mil. A3 had a $28mil fourth weekend, which is about what BP made in its fifth weekend (BP had a $40mil fourth weekend). In other words, A3 holds are not as good.
But according to daily tracking, it goes back and forth from BP to AIW. But on AIW's 24th day compared to BP's 24th day, AIW is leading with $595,032,959 compared to BP's $561,697,180:
I think he is referring to the cultural importance in this country of the movie having a majority black cast. That wasn't as important globally, especially in China, where people were holding their breaths to see how it would do. On these boards people spent pages and pages predicting what the success of BP would be in China. Ultimately it didn't do very well, compared to its performance in most of the rest of the world. They didn't view the cultural aspect as being important, and only judged it as a film (which had mixed reviews). Ultimately, the significance of the cultural aspect was more important here in the US, which may explain why BP is on pace to beat IW stateside but not globally, where IW has become one of the highest grossing movies of all time.
I think he is referring to the cultural importance in this country of the movie having a majority black cast. That wasn't as important globally, especially in China, where people were holding their breaths to see how it would do. On these boards people spent pages and pages predicting what the success of BP would be in China. Ultimately it didn't do very well, compared to its performance in most of the rest of the world.
Hmmm. Well, I don't know why people keep saying that... Because when I researched that topic, I found this:
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China has been the top international market for “Black Panther” with $105 million, followed by the U.K. with $62 million and South Korea with $42 million.
The first superhero film with an all-black cast had a strong opening in the world's second-largest film market, scooping up $67 million in ticket sales in just three days. "Black Panther" has grossed more than $1 billion globally since its release less than a month ago.
They didn't view the cultural aspect as being important, and only judged it as a film (which had mixed reviews). Ultimately, the significance of the cultural aspect was more important here in the US, which may explain why BP is on pace to beat IW stateside but not globally, where IW has become one of the highest grossing movies of all time.
Well, perhaps you're right about BP's cultural aspect in China, but from what I heard, one of the reasons why BP did so well in many of the international markets is because it appealed to people of color other than blacks, because many of them feel the same discrimination and injustices that blacks feel. And right now, I couldn't find an article pertaining to that, but I did find this article from several weeks ago:
Well, perhaps you're right about BP's cultural aspect in China, but from what I heard, one of the reasons why BP did so well in many of the international markets is because it appealed to people of color other than blacks, because many of them feel the same discrimination and injustices that blacks feel. And right now, I couldn't find an article pertaining to that, but I did find this article from several weeks ago:
That’s why people keep saying that Black Panther didn’t do well in China, which may not be entirely true, as you point out. The headlines related to race “sell” and can distort the truth. Plus many people were so curious as to how Chinese would support the film and said that it would reflect how racially tolerant they have become. Because of the huge focus on the racial significance, which led to many negative race-related press releases from China, everyone is probably incorrectly underestimating its success in China.
Ultimately, I think it ended up doing "well" in China; just not as well as in other parts of the world, and certainly not as well as Infinity War. If there hadn’t been so much focus on the racial significance of Black Panther and how it would do in China, there probably wouldn’t have been any negative race-related press, and based off the numbers people would correctly think it did pretty well in China.
Last edited by personone; 05-21-2018 at 10:42 AM..
I think he is referring to the cultural importance in this country of the movie having a majority black cast. That wasn't as important globally, especially in China, where people were holding their breaths to see how it would do. On these boards people spent pages and pages predicting what the success of BP would be in China. Ultimately it didn't do very well, compared to its performance in most of the rest of the world. They didn't view the cultural aspect as being important, and only judged it as a film (which had mixed reviews). Ultimately, the significance of the cultural aspect was more important here in the US, which may explain why BP is on pace to beat IW stateside but not globally, where IW has become one of the highest grossing movies of all time.
China is not the world, and who really cares if a movie does well in China?
Lots of American films are not even allowed in China due to censorship.
Products, films, and companies can be very profitable despite having limited access to the Chinese marketplace (Google, Facebook, most social media companies).
That’s why people keep saying that Black Panther didn’t do well in China, which may not be entirely true, as you point out. The headlines related to race “sell” and can distort the truth. Plus many people were so curious as to how Chinese would support the film and said that it would reflect how racially tolerant they have become. Because of the huge focus on the racial significance, which led to many negative race-related press releases from China, everyone is probably incorrectly underestimating its success in China.
Ultimately, I think it ended up doing "well" in China; just not as well as in other parts of the world, and certainly not as well as Infinity War. If there hadn’t been so much focus on the racial significance of Black Panther and how it would do in China, there probably wouldn’t have been any negative race-related press, and based off the numbers people would correctly think it did pretty well in China.
Good points. But at the same time the racial significance had to be mentioned in the press, as most Black films had to do with slavery, civil rights, or ghetto issues. This was the first major Black majority film that dealt with neither of those issues.
So why is BP on pace to outgross Infinity War stateside, but globally IW has greatly surpassed BP? What does being a non-avengers film have to do with that phenomenon? One of the main boosts to IW is how well it has done and continues to do in China (the second biggest global movie market) in comparison to BP's comparatively poor performance there.
Avengers films feature an assemble of the most popular characters: They are expected to be the biggest films and they perform accordingly.
An over/under $100mil in China is standard for Marvel films. Assemble films do better.
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Originally Posted by personone
I think he is referring to the cultural importance in this country of the movie having a majority black cast.
No, he was not referring to it's cultural significance.
Last edited by the happy guy; 05-21-2018 at 12:41 PM..
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