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I doubt Mark Millar would've gained Marvel's trust to do Civil War if the Ultimates series wasn't so huge a success.
Ultimates was a huge success. I know I'm one of the few naysayers on this front. And I'm not a complete naysayer. Parts of Ultimates I really loved (Cap, Nick Fury, the Pyms; heck, I even liked Thor, and I NEVER liked Thor in he main Marvel U). I just absolutely loathed Millar's take on the Hulk, and I thought the plot too quickly devolved into an unmotivated, silly shoot 'em up. I would compare the endings of both The Ultimates and Ultimates 2 as a comic-book attempt at a Michael Bay film --- all spectacle and no heart.
But I thought Civil War was awesome. Loved it! And I loved Millar's Ultimate X-Men as well. One of my favorite takes on the X-Men ever.
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And Brian Michael Bendis only got Ultimate Spiderman because he had such a huge success with telling stories about the human side of Daredevil.
His Daredevil was awesome. Probably my favorite writer on the character since Frank Miller. Did you read ALIAS? Speak of adult-oriented Marvel books. ALIAS was awesome. Probably one of the best things Marvel has ever done.
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But I'll stop posting about it if you find it a boring subject.
Not at all! But my Spider Sense is tingling about the displeasure of over-zealous moderators.
Of course I have. I even read Powers published by Icon.
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But my Spider Sense is tingling about the displeasure of over-zealous moderators.
So that is what the buzzing in my head is all about? I usually ignore it when the conversation is interesting (which could explain my many infractions).
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I've tried reading it. As much as I admire Bendis's work on other stuff, for some reason I just couldn't get into Powers. I think I may have read it out of order, which confused me. Maybe I'll try it again.
Originally Posted by Mark S. It is more like the TV series the Shield but then with superpowers.
I think you hit on what turned me off about it. I enjoy The Shield, and I absolutely love The Wire. I love the dark, gritty realism of it. But I'm enough of a geek that I would love it if there was a show or a comic that was The Wire, with super powers --- until they put on a dorky 1950s era superhero costume. It just spoils it for me. It's like going out of your way to tell this story of dark, gritty realism --- then dressing your characters in bright-colored leotards. It would be like putting crushed ice and a pink umbrella in a good beer. Ruins it!
Two good-tasting things don't always taste good together.
then dressing your characters in bright-colored leotards.
I just see it as way of 'mocking' the regular superhero comics, because the themes in Powers are as good as those in Daredevil or Ult. Spidey. But hey, it's your choice (and your loss).
Maybe you are more influenced by the penciller than the writer?
I guess that if Alex Ross pencilled Powers you would also follow it.
Ross makes anything look good because of his photorealism.
Maybe you are more influenced by the penciller than the writer?
Maybe. I dunno. I didn't really dislike the quality of the art. Just some of the subject matter. Going from a tough cop in a suit and tie in one panel to a cute blonde in a skirtless ballet outfit and a mask in the next... didn't work for me.
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I guess that if Alex Ross pencilled Powers you would also follow it.
Ross makes anything look good because of his photorealism.
Ick. No. I actually can't stand Alex Ross's art precisely because it is so photorealistic.
Art is meant to distill reality, not copy it. Especially in superhero comics.
Honestly, if you saw a guy dressed like Thor in the street, would you be in awe, or would you giggle? I'd giggle.
Honestly, if you saw a guy dressed like Thor in the street, would you be in awe, or would you giggle? I'd giggle.
And this is precisely why I would portray the superheroes in bright-coloured leotards; they are acting out their teenage power fantasies ( BTW I suggest you check out Mark Millar's Kick-Ass!).
Besidez, the superheroes are the bright white lights while the normal police detectives are the dark shadows in this Dark Noire comic.
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I even read Powers published by Icon.
I usually ignore it when the conversation is interesting (which could explain my many infractions).
It is more like the TV series the Shield but then with superpowers.
Maybe you are more influenced by the penciller than the writer?
