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Old 09-06-2021, 05:34 PM
 
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??? TSA rules are the same at all airports. Firearms/ammunition are to be packed in locked, hard sided cases and declared at the ticket counter to be checked.

What I said has nothing to do with TSA. Landing in Mass and landing in NH are two different worlds when it comes to firearms.

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Old 09-07-2021, 12:03 PM
 
Location: WMU D1, NH
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What I said has nothing to do with TSA. Landing in Mass and landing in NH are two different worlds when it comes to firearms.
This.

Drive the speed limit, stay on the big roads, hands at 10 and 2, go directly to the airport and hope you don't have a problem will work if you believe hope is a method.

While someone traveling under the safe passage provision of FOPA is federally legal, that is an argument that will be settled in court after the local yokel's book you on a Mass felony. There is also quite a bit of debate about what a short stop really is. A break down, gas, a stop at Dunks, or a hotel stay.

There have also been theories that those sovereign citizen/"moor" clowns that were going from RI to ME and stopped on 95 were setting up a FOPA test case in addition to their usual scam the taxpayers lawsuits.
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Old 09-07-2021, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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If you're planning on carrying/packing your weapon, Manchester makes more sense than Logan
When was the last time you have flown. 1968?

If you are caught with a weapon at MHT…. You will e facing fines, jail time and other extremes. This is a federal law.. not a law derived and kept in the very evil “Massachusetts”.

Im sure OP has bigger things/other concerns than carrying a gun on the plane or with them. Thats not something the average person cares about. So this post is invalid.
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Old 09-07-2021, 03:12 PM
 
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This.

Drive the speed limit, stay on the big roads, hands at 10 and 2, go directly to the airport and hope you don't have a problem will work if you believe hope is a method.

While someone traveling under the safe passage provision of FOPA is federally legal, that is an argument that will be settled in court after the local yokel's book you on a Mass felony. There is also quite a bit of debate about what a short stop really is. A break down, gas, a stop at Dunks, or a hotel stay.

There have also been theories that those sovereign citizen/"moor" clowns that were going from RI to ME and stopped on 95 were setting up a FOPA test case in addition to their usual scam the taxpayers lawsuits.

Yeah, I'm not too sure I'd want to take that risk. We're in Washington and soon have to fly into New England to do some house/land hunting. If it was just me I'd leave my weapons home, but if I go anywhere with my wife or daughter I carry. I'm not ready to roll the dice and hope that short drive from Logan to the border is uneventful. It's been a while but when I lived in Newport, RI, right on the Mass border the Massachusetts firearm and ammunition laws seemed ridiculous to me. I wasn't even allowed to purchase ammo, nor hold a gun in a store without prior approval from the state. Until that time I'd never come across such measures, then we moved to New York state, same silliness. So in preparing for our trip I've scoped out the airport situation hoping to not set foot in Massachusetts. I've read the FOPA and it gives me no peace of mind. The reason I'd have my weapon in the first place doesn't jive with being inaccessible. We're still figuring out how we're gonna drive across country, mapping out the states where we have reciprocity. Movers have restrictions about moving ammo and weapons too. 20 years ago had someone told me there was FOPA I would have been fine with traveling through hostile states, not so much today.


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Old 09-07-2021, 03:22 PM
 
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When was the last time you have flown. 1968?

If you are caught with a weapon at MHT…. You will e facing fines, jail time and other extremes. This is a federal law.. not a law derived and kept in the very evil “Massachusetts”.

Im sure OP has bigger things/other concerns than carrying a gun on the plane or with them. Thats not something the average person cares about. So this post is invalid.

When's the last time you left Massachusetts? Many people are concerned with this issue, especially those not conditioned to think guns are evil. I'm not concerned of being "caught" with a weapon either, I'd do what I have to by the book so my gun would be checked and then handed to me at my destination. Following the federal law for transporting a gun is more black and white than what happens once on the road from the airport to the border. You think too highly of yourself to say what's valid or not, you should expand your views and maybe spend more time away from the keyboard.

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Old 09-07-2021, 05:55 PM
 
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Post FOPA doesn't mean Massachusetts won't attempt to prosecute a non-resident for simple possession

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When was the last time you have flown. 1968?

If you are caught with a weapon at MHT…. You will e facing fines, jail time and other extremes. This is a federal law.. not a law derived and kept in the very evil “Massachusetts”.

Im sure OP has bigger things/other concerns than carrying a gun on the plane or with them. Thats not something the average person cares about. So this post is invalid.
Are you intentionally misunderstanding the discussion as being about carry-on bags when it is about checked bags?

Massachusetts makes it a criminal charge to posses even a single round of handgun ammunition if you don't have a handgun license issued by the state of Massachusetts. You can say FOPA! all you want, however in 2013 the US Court of Appeals ruled that the federal FOPA does not apply to airport travel.

So when I'm planning to check through a suitcase with a firearm, I avoid Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey.
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Old 09-07-2021, 06:15 PM
 
Location: WMU D1, NH
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When was the last time you have flown. 1968?

If you are caught with a weapon at MHT…. You will e facing fines, jail time and other extremes. This is a federal law.. not a law derived and kept in the very evil “Massachusetts”.
I too occasionally comment on things where i have no grasp of the subject matter or the intricacies of said subject matter. I may look like a fool while doing so, but I blather on anyways.

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Im sure OP has bigger things/other concerns than carrying a gun on the plane or with them. Thats not something the average person cares about. So this post is invalid.
While there is thankfully no definitive "# of firearms owners in the US", in 2016 Rand offered a lowball estimate that 32% of Americans owned firearms. In the month of August 21, there were 2.7 million background checks for firearms completed. Down from July where there were 2.9 million. Just because you don't think the average person doesn't care about something doesn't make it a true statement.
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Old 10-24-2021, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Savannah, MO
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??? TSA rules are the same at all airports. Firearms/ammunition are to be packed in locked, hard sided cases and declared at the ticket counter to be checked.
Just so you know..Logan is in Mass..and MASS is a NO GUN STATE. Not saying you'd be stopped or..but the last I knew, if you're caught Its a 1 yr jail term automatically..
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Old 10-24-2021, 02:56 PM
 
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Just so you know..Logan is in Mass..and MASS is a NO GUN STATE. Not saying you'd be stopped or..but the last I knew, if you're caught Its a 1 yr jail term automatically..
I'm well aware of the MA handgun law. One may apply for a MA license to carry that is good for 6 years. As long as the firearm is transported properly, then it's not a problem to check it at Logan.
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Old 10-26-2021, 06:40 AM
 
Location: WMU D1, NH
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I'm well aware of the MA handgun law. One may apply for a MA license to carry that is good for 6 years. As long as the firearm is transported properly, then it's not a problem to check it at Logan.



Most Mass non res permits are one year and takes a looong time to process.


Post on reddit stating aprox five months. https://www.reddit.com/r/NHGuns/comm..._ltc_5_months/
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