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Old 09-13-2010, 01:36 PM
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Wait, some folks explicitly think that all Muslims see the US as an enemy and want to destroy or at least change it?
Yes, there are a number of people who believe this. And like most conspiracy theorists, they have a certain amount of "facts" that back up this belief.

An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America :: Archive Documents :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism
The C-Square: Muslim Brotherhood's Plans To Destroy America from Within:"Six years after 9/11, we're still asleep. Islamic radicals have declared war on us"
Egyptian TV: 'Islam Will Conquer Italy and the Entire West' - A7 Exclusive Features - Israel News - Israel National News
http://www.brookesnews.com/081606Gioiaislam.html

Google around and you'll find LOTs of references to this concept.

I didn't know about this theory, myself, until this whole controversy started over the mosque. I don't know how much I believe this, but it IS pretty scary, and it does sound plausible.
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Old 09-13-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/op...05kristof.html
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Old 09-13-2010, 01:40 PM
 
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Yes, there are a number of people who believe this. And like most conspiracy theorists, they have a certain amount of "facts" that back up this belief.

An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America :: Archive Documents :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism
The C-Square: Muslim Brotherhood's Plans To Destroy America from Within:"Six years after 9/11, we're still asleep. Islamic radicals have declared war on us"
Egyptian TV: 'Islam Will Conquer Italy and the Entire West' - A7 Exclusive Features - Israel News - Israel National News

Google around and you'll find LOTs of references to this concept.

I didn't know about this theory, myself, until this whole controversy started over the mosque. I don't know how much I believe this, but it IS pretty scary, and it does sound plausible.
That is the funniest thing I have ever read. This is a joke right?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/op...stof.html?_r=1 Excellent editorial. Sums it up nicely.Thanks Tahiti!
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Old 09-13-2010, 01:42 PM
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That is the funniest thing I have ever read. This is a joke right?
I dunno. But boy, you read fast! You finished those articles and formulated your opinion in less than 4 minutes! Absolutely amazing!
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:04 PM
 
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I dunno. But boy, you read fast! You finished those articles and formulated your opinion in less than 4 minutes! Absolutely amazing!
Articles? The 3 things you posted were like 5 paragraphs total, it doesn't take a speed reader to get through that in the blink of an eye. The Times piece I had already read. My opinion was pretty well formulated( I read A LOT) and those little tidbits only helped fortify my beliefs. But thanks for the compliment and the laugh, that stuff really was funny

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Old 09-13-2010, 02:36 PM
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that stuff really was funny
Funny? I don't think so. I see it as far-fetched, and of a "conspiracy-theory" mindset. But I don't see it as "funny".
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:37 PM
 
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Wait, some folks explicitly think that all Muslims see the US as an enemy and want to destroy or at least change it?
are you being sarcastic? there is really no two ways about it, if you are a muslim you want to put every country you are in under islamic law. generally its convert or die but i do believe there are ways for non-muslims to exist under islamic law but they are extremely restrictive. you think jihad is just something terrorist scream about? its in the religion.
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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One of the comments on "Islam Will Conquer Italy . . ." was insightful I thought: "The Islamic Powers are the new communism". It's the new thing to demonize and worry about, I guess. People seem to need an mythical enemy to organize against.
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:40 PM
 
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are you being sarcastic? there is really no two ways about it, if you are a muslim you want to put every country you are in under islamic law. generally its convert or die but i do believe there are ways for non-muslims to exist under islamic law but they are extremely restrictive. you think jihad is just something terrorist scream about? its in the religion.
No, I'm not being sarcastic. You must not know many Muslims.
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:48 PM
 
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No, I'm not being sarcastic. You must not know many Muslims.
i know some but dont expect them to confirm my beliefs.

what other religion actually has such control over countries as the "islamic nations" do? they have many where thats the official language and there are severe restrictions on the actions of any other religous groups. there are many that may not be official, but islamic law is integrated very much in their legal system. you think that you can change that by voting? you will be killed. they are issuing death orders for people simply for burning a book. the only thing stopping that here is numbers. it happens everywhere they are. just do some research about where muslims are fighting, rioting, murdering, demanding autonomy, etc. etc. around the world. i think its funny that we believe bringing democracy to afghanistan and iraq will change anythingfor the better. the muslims will vote in an islamic dictatorship.
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