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Old 11-09-2010, 04:59 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Its sleeting now , thats not a good sign of the winter to come....
That's a common misconception. You can't predict the entire winter based on one storm. We haven't even had a frost yet at my house, and temps are supposed to be up near 60 by the weekend. Some of the trees near me are still green.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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I'll forgo my "you people are NUTS wanting winter to come" speech, but I must say that New Jersey's climate May-Sept. is awesome. I consider every other month freezing and do not like it. I could take cold weather from Halloween to New Years, then I want it warm again. I'm going fishing for striped bass at Barnegat Inlet/bay tomorrow and am looking forward to a good old fashioned fall fishing trip, but I'm a warm weather guy through and through.

I do like the winter beer brews, however.

As far as the coastal areas go, some day I'll have to post some photos from Longport. I don't live in that town, but I'm there somewhat often and I have to say I've never seen a town with so many palm trees in New Jersey. Pt. Pleasant has some at Jenk's (and one business on Rt. 35) and there are some areas in Bayville, Forked River and LBI where people have planted them in direct sunlight, but Longport takes the cake. Though it takes a little work, you CAN have a tropical paradise in Jersey.
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Some where North of South Jersey
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Yea real Palm trees ehh? go back in a few weeks and see if they are still alive. I've seen them at the shore too they are only for the summer, they will die I'm sure they are dead already it's too cold for them to survive.
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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Yea real Palm trees ehh? go back in a few weeks and see if they are still alive. I've seen them at the shore too they are only for the summer, they will die I'm sure they are dead already it's too cold for them to survive.
Incorrect. I have neighbors who live on the bay in direct sunlight and their palm varieties survive all year. Normally they wrap the bark in the winter. The trees look "dead" to an extent but they do come back. I believe it's a particular Asian variety of palm tree that can survive in the southern part of New Jersey. The state has two or three different planting climate zones on the Dept. of Agriculture map, and the southeast coast falls right on the border of the warmest, which stretches down in the greater mid-Atlantic.

There is also a farm in New Jersey that specifically breeds palm trees for NJ locations. Obviously, they would not survive in many parts of North Jersey but they'll usually pull out a winter in the coastal region.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Incorrect. I have neighbors who live on the bay in direct sunlight and their palm varieties survive all year. Normally they wrap the bark in the winter. The trees look "dead" to an extent but they do come back. I believe it's a particular Asian variety of palm tree that can survive in the southern part of New Jersey. The state has two or three different planting climate zones on the Dept. of Agriculture map, and the southeast coast falls right on the border of the warmest, which stretches down in the greater mid-Atlantic.

There is also a farm in New Jersey that specifically breeds palm trees for NJ locations. Obviously, they would not survive in many parts of North Jersey but they'll usually pull out a winter in the coastal region.
You're right, there are specific breeds of palm trees that are cold hardy. My friend has one that can survive temps down to 10 degrees. The trunk of the tree actually has some kind of fur-like hair on it. These palm trees can get down to -10 deg F. http://www.tuckedawayfarms.com/about...rdy-palms.html
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:50 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Here in NW NJ last year we received a couple inches of snow around October 15th. A couple years ago I remember it snowing a few days before Halloween.

This year's first snow (and sleet) was on Monday.

Coldest temperature so far was 23 F.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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Here in NW NJ last year we received a couple inches of snow around October 15th. A couple years ago I remember it snowing a few days before Halloween.

This year's first snow (and sleet) was on Monday.

Coldest temperature so far was 23 F.
NWNJ is a cool area of the state! I hope to explore it more! Here in the opposite end of the state (SENJ) we actually had one night dip to 29-degrees last week! It's chilly all around.

Don't think I've ever seen snow before Halloween, though!!
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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You're right, there are specific breeds of palm trees that are cold hardy. My friend has one that can survive temps down to 10 degrees. The trunk of the tree actually has some kind of fur-like hair on it. These palm trees can get down to -10 deg F. Tucked Away Farms - Califon, NJ
Ahh, THAT'S the farm! They have a "satellite" farm of sorts in West Creek, NJ in southern Ocean County. My official project for next spring is planting a palm or two at my house. I'm in direct sunlight probably 80% of the day, unobstructed since I'm a few houses from the bay. Figure I might be a good candidate. If nothing else, it'll be a good betting pool amongst the neighbors over how long my palm trees will last.
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:28 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Here in NW NJ last year we received a couple inches of snow around October 15th. A couple years ago I remember it snowing a few days before Halloween.

This year's first snow (and sleet) was on Monday.

Coldest temperature so far was 23 F.
Yes, I think we got snow 2 years in a row before Halloween. 2 years ago we got about 12" - my kids were stuck at school until 6pm or so because the roads were so bad.

Oddly enough last year the Delaware Valley got far more snow than we did.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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NWNJ is a cool area of the state! I hope to explore it more! Here in the opposite end of the state (SENJ) we actually had one night dip to 29-degrees last week! It's chilly all around.

Don't think I've ever seen snow before Halloween, though!!
Yeah it's great up here, especially during the fall. I suggest visiting Wawayanda, Stokes State Forest, and High Point when you make it up.

On the flipside, I'll have to make my way down the shore sometime. Haven't been there in a few years.
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