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My son used to work for DirecTV when we lived in Burlington County in 2006, he serviced Trenton, his home office was next to Moorestown, also in Burlington County.
He's now with Comcast. I'm not sure if they service Trenton too, I'll have to ask him if I remember. We live farther South in Gloucester County now.
I consider it its own thing, but more on the Philly side. Princeton is truly the middle point (edge to NYC). But Trenton I would say is solidly Philly land over New York.
I consider it its own thing, but more on the Philly side. Princeton is truly the middle point (edge to NYC). But Trenton I would say is solidly Philly land over New York.
What's fascinating about what you wrote here is that it is 12 miles from the middle of Princeton to the middle of Trenton (not the I-295 beltway). When you frame it in those terms, you are stating that 12 miles tends change the lean of the two metros in a signficant way. I run about 6-7 miles on an average day, and that's not much less than the distance you are bringing up here. It displays to me how much tinier scales there are in the northeast US compared to all other regions.
What's fascinating about what you wrote here is that it is 12 miles from the middle of Princeton to the middle of Trenton (not the I-295 beltway). When you frame it in those terms, you are stating that 12 miles tends change the lean of the two metros in a signficant way. I run about 6-7 miles on an average day, and that's not much less than the distance you are bringing up here. It displays to me how much tinier scales there are in the northeast US compared to all other regions.
Well, it has to change over somewhere. You will inevitably find the same thing in the southeast...for example, the space between Tampa and Orlando, or how about suburban towns in the middle of the triangle between Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati? Perhaps the space between San Antonio and Austin? Perhaps also Los Angeles and San Diego? Chicago and Milwaukee? Pretty much any major cities 2 hours or less apart you will run into a similar situation.
What's fascinating about what you wrote here is that it is 12 miles from the middle of Princeton to the middle of Trenton (not the I-295 beltway). When you frame it in those terms, you are stating that 12 miles tends change the lean of the two metros in a signficant way. I run about 6-7 miles on an average day, and that's not much less than the distance you are bringing up here. It displays to me how much tinier scales there are in the northeast US compared to all other regions.
Yeah you aren't wrong. I see it here in Connecticut.
From Waterbury CT to Southington CT, the allegiance from NY to BOS gradually goes from 75% NY to 75% Boston. And thats like 10 miles. And again from West Haven CT to Guilford CT, about 15 miles.
Well, it has to change over somewhere. You will inevitably find the same thing in the southeast...for example, the space between Tampa and Orlando, or how about suburban towns in the middle of the triangle between Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati? Perhaps the space between San Antonio and Austin? Perhaps also Los Angeles and San Diego? Chicago and Milwaukee? Pretty much any major cities 2 hours or less apart you will run into a similar situation.
Los Angeles and San Diego, that is dead zone that is Camp Pendleton. It's the only undeveloped stretch of coast in Southern California. That one's very obvious. The others that you stated are less obvious. I was just in the area between San Antonio and Austin two weeks ago, and to me, I think the fissure line is San Marcos, as Kyle is definitely Austin and New Braunfels is definitely San Antonio. The others, I am not so sure about. The difference between New Jersey, if you pinpointed it 6 miles between Trenton and Princeton, and the two samples I just gave you here is that they are clear middles in the form of a military facility and a rather substantial college town.
Los Angeles and San Diego, that is dead zone that is Camp Pendleton. It's the only undeveloped stretch of coast in Southern California. That one's very obvious. The others that you stated are less obvious. I was just in the area between San Antonio and Austin two weeks ago, and to me, I think the fissure line is San Marcos, as Kyle is definitely Austin and New Braunfels is definitely San Antonio. The others, I am not so sure about. The difference between New Jersey, if you pinpointed it 6 miles between Trenton and Princeton, and the two samples I just gave you here is that they are clear middles in the form of a military facility and a rather substantial college town.
“Substantial college town.” And what exactly is Princeton? The truth of the matter is that Trenton, Princeton, and the rest of Mercer County are in many ways independent of both NYC and Philly due to the distance from both. When someone says a town in Mercer County leans one way or another, they are all slight. Trenton has strong ties to both. SEPTA to Philly AND NJ Transit to NYC. As the state capital and with Princeton University and plenty of pharma companies around, Mercer County is its own hub. It’s not really distinctly NYC or Philly, and that is reflected in that the county is its own MSA, which is defined by commuting patterns.
When we say “Trenton is more Philly, and Princeton is more NYC”, it’s more like, gun to your head, and you are forced to choose one or the other. But in reality, doesn’t adequately describe the situation at all, if that makes sense.
Yeah you aren't wrong. I see it here in Connecticut.
From Waterbury CT to Southington CT, the allegiance from NY to BOS gradually goes from 75% NY to 75% Boston. And thats like 10 miles. And again from West Haven CT to Guilford CT, about 15 miles.
Same with The Philly/Balt divide too.
I find that equally fascinating, as I have stopped in Connecticut many times and have spent time there, in all four corners, I am just not a steward on Connecticut. I wonder in those 10 miles between those two towns of Waterbury and Southington what changes? A school district? Looking at that area right now. How does the small villlage of Wolcott lean, just between the two? Also, does East Haven differ from West Haven?
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