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Old 04-08-2014, 10:10 AM
 
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but didn't he make the choice to drink?
The whole family were big drinkers. I'm convinced some ppl are doomed once they pick up a bad habit & never try hard to quit.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:17 AM
 
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The whole family were big drinkers. I'm convinced some ppl are doomed once they pick up a bad habit & never try hard to quit.
I have no experience so its especially difficult for me to understand not quitting such bad habits. the only person I know who had an issue was my wife's father. I think as far as my wife & MIL are concerned, he is 100% responsible for what he did and so he deserves no help or pity. the people who suffered wrongly were them. so I see feeling sorry for people who deal with these "addicts" but for them, I see it as a choice. alcohol/drugs were more important than anything else.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:16 AM
 
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Even kids that could be yours or your nieces & nephews? Man, some ppl are ice cold around here. I lost the funniest SOB of a friend 6 months ago from many yrs of alcoholism. Only in his early 40s. The world is definitely a worse place without him.
One of the main problems I see with addition is that many folks believed they need the substance in order to give them the power to be who they are. I had a DJ friend who can't do anything right while sober and only with alcohol and drugs he suddenly becomes a God at his line of work.

He has offered his drugs to me and said you can channel more of your inner power through drugs.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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The whole family were big drinkers. I'm convinced some ppl are doomed once they pick up a bad habit & never try hard to quit.
you are correct. It was a huge process for me to quit my drug of choice. It was hard, I look back and still think to myself I cant believe I made it. I still to this day sometimes think, Ohh I wish I could escape and get high. I still at times suffer from anxiety, and coping skill issues. Its a huge and hard change to get off drugs especially after age 40's. Usually it the addict is still getting high by age 45 they are not having a good time at all on any drug or booze. Its never fun, its never the same, and its not euphoric at all! Its all the negatives that come at that age. If they are not done using by age 45 they usually will never stop till it kills them. People don't change that easy and its WORK!
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Old 04-08-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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He has offered his drugs to me and said you can channel more of your inner power through drugs.
hmm id like to tap some of my inner power, whats he using?
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Old 04-08-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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hmm id like to tap some of my inner power, whats he using?
Probably those nasty energy drinks & Marlboros.
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Old 04-08-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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Probably those nasty energy drinks & Marlboros.
im too cheap to buy energy drinks. a caffeine pill is about 5 cents per 200mg. why pay extra for guarana/ginseng or whatever fake crap they add when you can just pay for the part that actually does something.

I once bought pure caffeine powder figuring id make my own energy drinks. man, that stuff tastes sooooooo bad you wouldn't believe that its in your soda and coffee.
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Old 04-08-2014, 06:57 PM
 
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you are correct. It was a huge process for me to quit my drug of choice. It was hard, I look back and still think to myself I cant believe I made it. I still to this day sometimes think, Ohh I wish I could escape and get high. I still at times suffer from anxiety, and coping skill issues. Its a huge and hard change to get off drugs especially after age 40's. Usually it the addict is still getting high by age 45 they are not having a good time at all on any drug or booze. Its never fun, its never the same, and its not euphoric at all! Its all the negatives that come at that age. If they are not done using by age 45 they usually will never stop till it kills them. People don't change that easy and its WORK!
My dead brother's ex-wife turned 60 in December. She is a junkie and has been since she was 18 years old. The longest she's ever gone without using is 2 months. My niece was born addicted to methadone (she's now 29, healthy, just gave birth to a baby in November.)

At my brother's funeral, an escort of some sort (not sure if she was in jail or rehab) brought my ex-sister-in-law to the funeral home. My younger brother said to her, "Never in a million years did we think you would outlive our brother."
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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My dead brother's ex-wife turned 60 in December. She is a junkie and has been since she was 18 years old. The longest she's ever gone without using is 2 months. My niece was born addicted to methadone (she's now 29, healthy, just gave birth to a baby in November.)

At my brother's funeral, an escort of some sort (not sure if she was in jail or rehab) brought my ex-sister-in-law to the funeral home. My younger brother said to her, "Never in a million years did we think you would outlive our brother."
Wow , yeah I have first hand experience. I also have a lot of interesting insight because the point being that most addicts when they hit the 40's in age are NOT HAVING FUN. So its the wanting, anticipation and memories of having fun. Usually after they do their drug of choice the pleasure is all over! So its not that we are dopamine deficient, its were dopamine wanting the anticipation! That's an interesting thought. I always know that wanting the drug and actually doing the drug would not be the same. It would be sheer paranoia , heart papls, anxiety , so it actually would suck. Instead I think it would be good. The anticipation of doing it is giving me the pleasure of dopamine not the doing the drug. Addicts after 20 something years of usually usually are miserable on their drug of choice! Great about your niece. ITs a battle!
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:53 PM
 
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The thing you read time & again is that junkies are always trying to chase the feeling of that first high. It never happens again and from there on it's all about maintenance. And junkies will do just about anything to avoid the pain of withdrawal.
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