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Old 01-08-2008, 10:21 PM
 
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This state is just asking for a Ronald Reagan type governor ... the Democrats here are borderline socialists and the Republicans are the new democrats ... the problem is that a real fiscal conservative will never be elected in this "Welfare" state ... we attempt to solve problems by apologizing for slavery and giving out needles to junkies, these welfare policies have to stop, here in S. NJ high school graduates only compete for government jobs, that is the best available , we need some real economic growth and the string of recent governors have not helped ... including that RINO Whitman ... the governorship in New Jersey is one of the strongest executive branches in the nation .... if we can only elect somebody who is capable of the job.

I help with a friend's paving business from time to time and our newest job was in this welfare housing project where the occupants only have to pay 80$ a month! Perfectly capable people walking around at 1pm in the afternoon with 4 kids in tow, I even saw a grown man playing with a remote control car! It is getting out of hand when people in the state who actually work and try to contribute to the economy are punished because of our ridiculous tax policies and those who can work and choose not to are rewarded with brand new homes. There has never been a successful economy in which productivity is penalized. In the late 80s NJ was one of the best state's to do business in ... now it is 48th.

I recently volunteered for Nick Asselta in the 1st district Senate race, while Asselta is not the best Republican he is miles ahead of the democrat Jeff Van Drew who is in the pocket of the Camden County Democrat machine run by Norcross and co. The voters here were faced with a clear choice and they voted for the man most likely to give them a handout for their vote.

The most liberal states in the Union are also the most debt ridden and economically depressed and there is clear explanation for this, as the government gets bigger and bigger and taxes and regulations go up ... business and profits go down PERIOD

I had to do a project about the state budget and when reading through it I was looking to see if the author was Karl Marx for christ's sake. Program for this, program for that

We had a democrat county freeholder speak to the class and my county, Cumberland, pretty much leads the nation in poverty and teenage pregnancies ... she was going along telling about the great government programs that we have in the state and county ... she thinks that our teenage pregnancy rate is so high because we don't have condom machines in public school bathrooms, what the hell is that about? Is it the government's job to hand out condoms now? We have nothing but hillary clinton clones running around saying "it takes a village" ... if we don't turn back the tide of liberalism this state will sink even further into economic misery

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Old 01-08-2008, 10:46 PM
 
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Corzine's main campaign promise was to reduce property taxes -- HE DID. I got my nice fat 20% rebate check. .
That's what he hoped people would believe. Rebate = Tax Reduction.

Look, taxes and spending in NJ will never go down.

The urban politicians and state worker's unions will never allow it.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Has. Hts.
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This state is just asking for a Ronald Reagan type governor
ahh yes, trickle-down economics...

...which resulted in record deficits (at the time, until Dubya blew past those numbers)

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those who can work and choose not to are rewarded with brand new homes.
I think that is a bit of an exaggeration, but I hear you.

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The voters here were faced with a clear choice and they voted for the man most likely to give them a handout for their vote.
who wouldn't ?

this is something that is bigger than NJ.

in the U.S. 5% of the population controls 95% of the wealth.

if you're on the short end of the stick, you vote for who will offer you any hope.

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The most liberal states in the Union are also the most debt ridden and economically depressed and there is clear explanation for this
there is, but it's not the one you put forth -- it's the population.

time to stop having so many g--damned babies, and to close the borders.


...oh, nice images BTW.

typical divisive Repugnican claptrap.

try offering solutions, instead of just complaining.
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:48 AM
 
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I do miss lots of things about the place I was born and lived 38 years but I sure dont miss living there. There is an America outside those Jersey borders. You would not believe how good it gets either.
I feel exactly the same way. I've lived here 60+ years and will be moving shortly. I love NJ, just cannot afford to live here.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:00 AM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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John G,
You are obviously a die hard dem, good for you I leave my vote open. Now do you really think corzine is doing a good job. What part, the raising of the state sales tax then giving it right back with christmas tree items for friends to pee away our money. And corzine does not hold all the blame. I agree he was up to his head in it when he came in. This state has been in the gutter all the way back to our last 15 years. You need drastic cuts and stop increasing spending. By him raising the tolls 800 percent when you compound it, he is screwing our kids. Day one when he came in he should have made these cuts and maybe we would be a little better off now. And lets not go with the DEM versus REP thing, this is about him screwing the people. BTW you are the only one on this thread saying he is doing a great job and cutting property taxes.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:35 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Plainly stated- I hate it, I use the parkway and turnpike everyday along with the wife, at seperate times as we work different hours. If I lived on Rt.80 and didn't pay a nickle to go to work I would love it. But all kidding aside, the answer is to stop spending and make drastic cuts and you know he's not going to do it. It's election time in 2009 and guess what the toll increase takes place in 2010. Is this well planned or a coincidence. I think not. He's basically screwing our kids but u know what the idiots will vote for him again.
honestly, one of the reasons i moved out where i am now was to avoid the toll roads. i can get pretty much anywhere in the state without going on the parkway or tkpe. before moving out here, i either had to take the SI bridges or the Tkpe to get ANYWHERE, and it was too expensive.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Little Pond Farm
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Unhappy I missed the speech

Did the Gov out line a plan that is going to rein in the out of control Pensions and life time benefits for municipal/State workers?

Did he out line a plan to stop the double and triple dipping ( sometimes more)

Did he outline a plan to recoup all the billions wasted and mis-spent by SCC?

Did he outline a plan to make the Abbott Districts accountable?

Did he outline a plan on how to pay for and provide space for all the new preschoolers in his Universal Pre School plan?

DId he outline a plan to insure NJ tax Payer monies are being spent on the residents that are entitled to it? Is NJ still a sanctuary State?

Did he commit to with holding pensions and benefits to Politicians found guilty of any kind of corruption?

Or was this press conference strictly once again about the States need to raise taxes and tolls.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:23 AM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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honestly, one of the reasons i moved out where i am now was to avoid the toll roads. i can get pretty much anywhere in the state without going on the parkway or tkpe. before moving out here, i either had to take the SI bridges or the Tkpe to get ANYWHERE, and it was too expensive.
I tried, but the wife wanted to be able to walk to the beach. Now if the governor proposed drastic tolls on Rt. 80 there isn't to many places to hide. This is one of the few times that I agree with APV Guy it has to spread out evenly.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:54 AM
 
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This state is just asking for a Ronald Reagan type governor ... the Democrats here are borderline socialists and the Republicans are the new democrats ... the problem is that a real fiscal conservative will never be elected in this "Welfare" state ... we attempt to solve problems by apologizing for slavery and giving out needles to junkies, these welfare policies have to stop, here in S. NJ high school graduates only compete for government jobs, that is the best available , we need some real economic growth and the string of recent governors have not helped ... including that RINO Whitman ... the governorship in New Jersey is one of the strongest executive branches in the nation .... if we can only elect somebody who is capable of the job.

I help with a friend's paving business from time to time and our newest job was in this welfare housing project where the occupants only have to pay 80$ a month! Perfectly capable people walking around at 1pm in the afternoon with 4 kids in tow, I even saw a grown man playing with a remote control car! It is getting out of hand when people in the state who actually work and try to contribute to the economy are punished because of our ridiculous tax policies and those who can work and choose not to are rewarded with brand new homes. There has never been a successful economy in which productivity is penalized. In the late 80s NJ was one of the best state's to do business in ... now it is 48th.

I recently volunteered for Nick Asselta in the 1st district Senate race, while Asselta is not the best Republican he is miles ahead of the democrat Jeff Van Drew who is in the pocket of the Camden County Democrat machine run by Norcross and co. The voters here were faced with a clear choice and they voted for the man most likely to give them a handout for their vote.

The most liberal states in the Union are also the most debt ridden and economically depressed and there is clear explanation for this, as the government gets bigger and bigger and taxes and regulations go up ... business and profits go down PERIOD

I had to do a project about the state budget and when reading through it I was looking to see if the author was Karl Marx for christ's sake. Program for this, program for that

We had a democrat county freeholder speak to the class and my county, Cumberland, pretty much leads the nation in poverty and teenage pregnancies ... she was going along telling about the great government programs that we have in the state and county ... she thinks that our teenage pregnancy rate is so high because we don't have condom machines in public school bathrooms, what the hell is that about? Is it the government's job to hand out condoms now? We have nothing but hillary clinton clones running around saying "it takes a village" ... if we don't turn back the tide of liberalism this state will sink even further into economic misery

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/Joey24007/commnj.jpg (broken link)

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/Joey24007/11111.jpg (broken link)
"here in S. NJ high school graduates only compete for government jobs, that is the best available"

Excellent post I can't disagree with a word you say. I especially like the above line, so so true!
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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I tried, but the wife wanted to be able to walk to the beach. Now if the governor proposed drastic tolls on Rt. 80 there isn't to many places to hide. This is one of the few times that I agree with APV Guy it has to spread out evenly.
Sure there is...Rte 46 and Rte 10..all though both roads would then be clogged with endless cars with PENNSY plates on them
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