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You should actually speak to people who have worked in Asia, including Asians. China and India will eat out lunch. You've still got a massive undereducated basis in those countries, that's partially why US companies can offshore work there. Surely don't don't think those people who get worked to death making IPhones at Foxconn are top level engineers?
If you go to Roosevelt Avenue, you'll see the Asian pimps and hookers posing as massage therapists. Not all Asians come from sterling families. You've crime and drugs among them as well.
In terms of having truly talented people, that's a minority among any country, culture, or race. Asians are no different. Most people in China and India are poor, and are in no danger of becoming wealthy.
Let me give you an example. The US has some great engineering colleges, places like Georgia Tech, MIT, RIT, etc. World class engineer schooling. One half of the students are foreign. Of that one half who are foreign, almost 70% of them return to their county after getting an engineering degree. They are building a base of intelluctual capital to help develop their nation, not ours. Overtime, what does that do to us?
Look at the economic tigers of SA. Aggressive and becoming more technoligically savvy. We need to invest in our brightest in order to compete on a very tough enconomic playing field. That is why the idiot who wants quotas in the Bronx HS of science is A.. backwards.
Let me give you an example. The US has some great engineering colleges, places like Georgia Tech, MIT, RIT, etc. World class engineer schooling. One half of the students are foreign. Of that one half who are foreign, almost 70% of them return to their county after getting an engineering degree. They are building a base of intelluctual capital to help develop their nation, not ours. Overtime, what does that do to us?
Look at the economic tigers of SA. Aggressive and becoming more technoligically savvy. We need to invest in our brightest in order to compete on a very tough enconomic playing field. That is why the idiot who wants quotas in the Bronx HS of science is A.. backwards.
Well, big name universities in the US certainly make their money off wealthy foreigners, don't they? Its like top people from around the world for centuries did their university studies in Britain, especially Oxford and Cambridge.
And while the intention of developing nations (not just Asians) in sending people here to study is to bring back skills and knowledge to the home country, that in and of itself doesn't mean the demise of the US. Wealthy foreign students have been studying at out top schools for awhile, as well.
But how societies progress depends a lot more upon a number of other factors besides the fact that some studied overseas. Things such as internal political stability, internal economic and cultural patterns are major factors.
I can agree with WebsterAveGuy in that we as a country are resting on our laurels while the rest of the country is hungry for education, retail, innovation, jobs, manufacturing, science, math, engineering, housing, and on and on. We have turned into a country which produces nothing of value, unless of course you count the movement of money/financial transactions. We have a growing class of people who simply make money off of money..pay minimal taxes, hide assets, and exploit the country and citizens.....all of our problems come back to this new reality.
Go to any graduate school and see who is the overwhelming demographic? Indians and Asians...and they are taking all of that capital/education back and creating wealth, new economic models, businesses, etc. China just finished another leg of their huge cross-country high speed rail line which kept them out of recession over the last few years....
If the US collapses, what happens to China? Do they have enough internal demand, or are they dependant upon exports to the US?
One thing that helps keep US interest rates low isn't just the fact the Fed set a low funds rate. The Chinese buy large amount of US government securities, keeping the value of the dollar high compared to the Chinese Yuan. This also keeps our interest rates low and makes it easier for Americans to use debt to purchase goods, many of whom will be made in China.
The Chinese basically have to help finance Americans to buy made in China products in order to help keep their economy growing. If the US falls, so do they.
And India too gets a lot of business from American companies offshoring work there, so if the US falls, they too would feel a lot of pain.
Well, big name universities in the US certainly make their money off wealthy foreigners, don't they? Its like top people from around the world for centuries did their university studies in Britain, especially Oxford and Cambridge.
And while the intention of developing nations (not just Asians) in sending people here to study is to bring back skills and knowledge to the home country, that in and of itself doesn't mean the demise of the US. Wealthy foreign students have been studying at out top schools for awhile, as well.
But how societies progress depends a lot more upon a number of other factors besides the fact that some studied overseas. Things such as internal political stability, internal economic and cultural patterns are major factors.
I don't think you grasp my arguement. LESS Americans want to be Engineers, Scientists, Chemists because it's hard work and they want the good life without earning it. Why do you think that even our liberal infected Education System reluctantly concurs with greater emphaisis on STEM?
I have no problem with Foreigners (I have lived almost 8 years outside the US) and there are many traits that China has that we once had. If Americans are foolish enough to believe we can co-exist economically with a nation that is growing stronger that keeps it's people under an increasingly tight lease with no ability to form a real democracy, debases it's currency to our detriment, is snapping up resource rich areas of the world to deny us access (think rare earth minerals), inroads in to Africa, owing almost both sides of the Panama Canal, they need to relook at our future.
We need to get tough. Stop entitlements for perpetual parasites who have no ambition to improve themseles. Oh, did I mention that China does not have a welfare state?
I agree with your first 2 paragraphs..but why is the answer then to get tough on the poor??? The answer is to get tough on those who are massively exploiting this country..aka the 1%/Corporations.
Keep your eye focused on the black woman who works for $8 per hour as a cashier with no health insurance, no benefits, no paid time off, has 2 kids, and needs Section 8 to pay her rent because the company doesn't pay enough, needs medicaid because her company doesn't offer health insurance, etc. They are the problem? NOOOOOO!
While you are busy blaming her, those corporations are transferring all of those costs onto the tax payer (health insurance, rent etc), while they make their executives fat and rich. THAT is the problem....you wanna get the parasites...THOSE ARE IT.
Better yet, keep your eye on the black 16 year old kid who just stole an iphone..he and the other poor blacks like him are clearly the problem, and not the bankers who stripped away your home equity, drained your retirement accounts, and caused the global meltdown that sent the world into a downward spiral. Nope they are not the parasites..it's those darn poor folks getting "free rent"..keep your eyes on them!
And here you are playing right into it..and while you are busy blaming the poor they are laughing all the way to the bank...your bank that is.stealing your future!
I don't think you grasp my arguement. LESS Americans want to be Engineers, Scientists, Chemists because it's hard work and they want the good life without earning it. Why do you think that even our liberal infected Education System reluctantly concurs with greater emphaisis on STEM?
We need to get tough. Stop entitlements for perpetual parasites who have no ambition to improve themseles. Oh, did I mention that China does not have a welfare state?
China is still way behind the US, and the US has China surrounded militarily. The US has bases in Korea, Japan, a friendly regime in Taiwan, a "frenemy" in Pakistan, and basis in Afghanistan. Oh, and the US is increasing economic and military ties to Vietnam.
In terms of innovation, if you substantially increased the number of Americans studying STEM fields, all you'd end up with is a surplus of STEM people who would then be either unemployed or underemployed.
The US produces enough stem people to still have a technological lead against China. China makes Iphones cheaply for the US. Wonderful.
Boeing, a major airplane manufacturer, is still based in the US and still makes planes here. Intel, maker of microprocessors, makes many of their CPUS here. Ever heard of a major Chinese CPU manufacturer? One that has a global brand? Ever hear of a major Chinese airplane maker? Oh, IBM, which makes mainframes and supercomputers, does this manufacturing in the US. The US does not allow certain technology considered sensitive to be made in other places. Ever heard of a Chinese maker of supercomputers or mainframes? I don't think so.
In Western markets, ever heard of a major Chinese auto brand? I don't think so either.
The Chinese are excellent at making cheap WalMart and KMart Crap, and low end electronics. Its so little of a threat to the US that they can't even get the US out of Korea.
China is a paper tiger, much like Japan was in the 80s.
China is still way behind the US, and the US has China surrounded militarily. The US has bases in Korea, Japan, a friendly regime in Taiwan, a "frenemy" in Pakistan, and basis in Afghanistan. Oh, and the US is increasing economic and military ties to Vietnam.
In terms of innovation, if you substantially increased the number of Americans studying STEM fields, all you'd end up with is a surplus of STEM people who would then be either unemployed or underemployed.
The US produces enough stem people to still have a technological lead against China. China makes Iphones cheaply for the US. Wonderful.
Boeing, a major airplane manufacturer, is still based in the US and still makes planes here. Intel, maker of microprocessors, makes many of their CPUS here. Ever heard of a major Chinese CPU manufacturer? One that has a global brand? Ever hear of a major Chinese airplane maker? Oh, IBM, which makes mainframes and supercomputers, does this manufacturing in the US. The US does not allow certain technology considered sensitive to be made in other places. Ever heard of a Chinese maker of supercomputers or mainframes? I don't think so.
In Western markets, ever heard of a major Chinese auto brand? I don't think so either.
The Chinese are excellent at making cheap WalMart and KMart Crap, and low end electronics. Its so little of a threat to the US that they can't even get the US out of Korea.
China is a paper tiger, much like Japan was in the 80s.
Did you see skysrapers in China 40 years ago? Did you see Bullet trains in China 40 years ago, did you see cruise missiles in China 40 years ago, did you see bullet trains in China 40 years ago, did you see a growing military establishment 40 years ago with world wide reach--nuke subs, an Aircraft Carrier, a space program that is successful? Please, you need to read more than tea leaves. They are coming at us and just as America will need to be it's strongest, we will be our weakest.
The pimps in Congress from both sides have sold the American Dream down river.
Did you see skysrapers in China 40 years ago? Did you see Bullet trains in China 40 years ago, did you see cruise missiles in China 40 years ago, did you see bullet trains in China 40 years ago, did you see a growing military establishment 40 years ago with world wide reach--nuke subs, an Aircraft Carrier, a space program that is successful? Please, you need to read more than tea leaves. They are coming at us and just as America will need to be it's strongest, we will be our weakest.
The pimps in Congress from both sides have sold the American Dream down river.
All that was said about both the Soviet Union and Japan.
Big deal. Whatever. As for their world wide reach of their military, please, they have no presence outside of China.
As for them coming at us, how, when they are way behind us militarily, and when their economy is dependent on exporting to the US. Even if they managed to catch up with the US, at the most the outcome of all out war would be mutually assured destruction, as the US has more than enough nukes to screw the world over. We'd all be dead.
And I seriously doubt Chinese leadership is suicidal. This is just fear mongering on your part. Oh, and by the US, the US is the only nation in the world to actually use nuclear weapons.
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