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Technically, yes. But perceptions are things you can't put on a stat sheet or a graph. I'm with you, Rachael: New York is New York, and New Jersey is New Jersey.
As to the question of secession, I'm all for New York City as a separate state. We wouldn't be under the suffocating bureaucracy known as Albany which, if you investigate the history, has been living off the city for nearly 300 years.
There was actually a state legislator from somewhere up in the Adirondacks who proposed redrawing the state's southern border--he wanted to excommunicate NYC. I was honestly hoping the legislature would consider that motion. New York City makes up slightly more than 32% of the state's population--yet we certainly don't get anything like one third of the state budget allocation. When all those people upstate start dancing in the streets at the thought of being rid of New York City, the party will come to a screeching halt when someone points out what's going to happen to their taxes if they haven't got us to leech off.
And without our eight million residents, New York State's electoral vote count in the next election will put it at the same general level of importance as, say, North Dakota.
As you can see, I'm fully prepared for state of New Amsterdam! (Capital, Manhattan. Largest city, Brooklyn).
The people upstate pay taxes, too, you know. Some of the highest in the nation. We don't leech off you. It doesn't take much intellectual curiosity to figure this one out.
Lol. Ya it doesnt have a new york feel too it at all. And thats as soon as you cross the george washington or the lincoln tunnel. I dont see how new yorkers, or supposedly new yorkers u never know on this site lol, would even mention jersey. The only thing we should be mentioning is yonkers or long island. Thats it
Jersey is mentioned because it's extremely close and part of your metro area. That should be obvious. It's rife with people who commute regularly to New York.
I think Jersey City would be the best bet because it has quick access to Manhattan and the rest of the city, a lot of companies are moving there, and it is improving unlike some areas that are in decline. Obviously, Jersey City will forever remain in NJ so Yonkers probablly is NY's runner up at being the sixth borough and would have a much better chance of making that happen than any other candidates.
Also the average Jersian does not idolize NYC or even want to live there. Jersians appreciate being so close to what most consider America's greatest city and overall its a great place to have fun, go out to eat, work, and visit but at the end of the day most Jersians want to come back home, otherwise they just move to NY.
I disagree with you. You're missing the obvious: Not all of them can AFFORD New York. There are many who live in North Jersey because they cannot afford Manhattan, but if they could, that's where they'd be.
Honestly, I think the city would do better getting Nassau and forgetting about NJ. People forget, there's some nasty areas tucked across the Hudson. West NY, Union city, Newark, Parts of JC. It's not all condos and gentrification.
Wow, let's conveniently forget about the equally-nasty areas of Manhattan, the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, Westchester, & LI. The point being that all areas have parts that are less desirable in which to live!
That's funny I've never heard of Jersey City/Hoboken? Stop marrying the two, Hoboken is where rich kids move when they are not quite ready for Manhattan. Jersey City couldnt be further from that. With that said , there is no need for a sixth NYC is fine the way it is. Oh and why not Jersey City/Union City? it has a nicer ring to it.
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