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I just find it ignorant that people on here believe some areas of NYC became dangerous due to blacks and hispanics moving in, true in some cases but some areas of the city but some areas have remain crime ridden regardless of color.
I just find it ignorant that people on here believe some areas of NYC became dangerous due to blacks and hispanics moving in, true in some cases but some areas of the city but some areas have remain crime ridden regardless of color.
It isn't about "color." It's about ghetto culture and the ghetto culture lifestyle.
I just find it ignorant that people on here believe some areas of NYC became dangerous due to blacks and hispanics moving in, true in some cases but some areas of the city but some areas have remain crime ridden regardless of color.
This author thought Brownsville went badly downhill in the 60s:
In New York today, the face of the city, Manhattan, is proud and glittering. But Manhattan is not the city. New York really is a sprawl of neighborhoods, which pile into one another. And it is down in the neighborhoods, down in the schools that are in the neighborhoods, where this city is cut and slashed and bleeding from someplace deep inside. The South Bronx is gone. East New York and Brownsville are gone. Jamaica is up for grabs.
Jimmy Breslin: Brownsville reminded him of Berlin after World War II; block after block of burned-out shells of houses, streets littered with decaying automobile hulks. The stores on the avenues are empty and the streets are lined with deserted apartment houses or buildings that have empty apartments on every floor.
I never been inside NYC but I just went to google earth typed Brownsville New York and I think it just took me to the exact spot you described. lol Was there a johnny's cleaners nearby?
I just find it ignorant that people on here believe some areas of NYC became dangerous due to blacks and hispanics moving in, true in some cases but some areas of the city but some areas have remain crime ridden regardless of color.
Out of curiousity, name one predominately white crime ridden neighborhood in NYC. I'm not being sarcastic, I just have never seen one and I've lived in NYC my entire life. If there is one I would love to know where.
I dont disagree with you. I was just responding to Bronxguyanese's post about parts of the city being crime ridden regardless of race or color.
Well here is another example.
Back in 1980, my census tract was about 34 % Puerto Rican, 33 % African American, and 33% White, and during that year it had an insanely high crime rate. Fast forward to 2012, where it's about 80% Hispanic, 20% Black, and it's crime rate is low. Unless you think that Puerto Ricans and African Americans where more apt to commit crimes 30 years ago, my neighborhood was worse when 1/3rd of the population was white.
This is the same for all the census tracts in the south Bronx in the 80's. All still had a semblance of a white population, and crime was very high.
Back in 1980, my census tract was about 34 % Puerto Rican, 33 % African American, and 33% White, and during that year it had an insanely high crime rate. Fast forward to 2012, where it's about 80% Hispanic, 20% Black, and it's crime rate is low. Unless you think that Puerto Ricans and African Americans where more apt to commit crimes 30 years ago, my neighborhood was worse when 1/3rd of the population was white.
This is the same for all the census tracts in the south Bronx in the 80's. All still had a semblance of a white population, and crime was very high.
Following that point, while advances in different aspects are a big reason for the drop in crime, a number of south brooklyn precincts back then which were predominantly working class white at the time had ridiculously high crime rates... 61st comes to mind... Also, my neighborhood itself has never been safer while the demographics continue to diversify... Back in the 70s and 80s, the crime rate was high when the hispanic population was probably hovering around 5-10% and every other group was nearly non-existant... Even in the 50s and 60s, word is there were gangs like the Ridgewood boys (very violent italian gang) that used to terrorize the neighborhood as well as parts of Bushwick... Crime eventually peaked in the 90s for the 104 and now that the demographics are somewhere around 50% hispanic, 35% White 10% asian 5% black circa 2012... the crime rate is at its lowest point since the 60s...
You can say what you want nowadays about black and hispanic people in NYC being the main culprits of crime... Fact is though, it has more to do with poverty than anything else... Most of the working class white areas back then have either become black/hispanic/asian working class areas or have become middle class white/mixed areas...
Last edited by anon1; 08-22-2012 at 01:28 PM..
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