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When considering whether to be sympathetic to a child of a certain background ... You could all visit the NYCHA thread, recent comments. Because that person claims to be a parent. That's what is there is for them. And I meet her every day.
What I am chagrined about is that many Black and Latino kids can try to succeed in school and do well, and then they'll come across some idiot who spouts off statistics and facts about how as a race, they are consigned to being at the bottom, that they are far less intelligent than so and so, and so on and so forth. The sad truth is that just like White people as individuals (unfortunately) have to bear the stigma of slavery/racism (whether they deserve it or not), Blacks and Latinos as individuals have to climb this mountain just to break free of the chains of "statistics and facts".
When considering whether to be sympathetic to a child of a certain background ... You could all visit the NYCHA thread, recent comments. Because that person claims to be a parent. That's what is there is for them. And I meet her every day.
Yes but there has to be a way to reach the child and not let their talents be lost and end up an unproductive member of society.
When considering whether to be sympathetic to a child of a certain background ... You could all visit the NYCHA thread, recent comments. Because that person claims to be a parent. That's what is there is for them. And I meet her every day.
I see what you're getting at.. I just checked that out. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people that feel like both of those characters do, the worse part is some of them speak similarly around their children.
Yes but there has to be a way to reach the child and not let their talents be lost and end up an unproductive member of society.
There is, just try with every one.
Seriously, though, the parents are often a problem.
Addendum - anyone who can, and who is not crazy, should consider working in a program (there are many) to provide stability in a child's life. It doesn't take so much time. You do not need to be a scholar or star athlete, just a stable and responsible person.
If everyone who was fit did this, there would be a major impact.
As a New Yorker and an American I have to say is this, that their needs to be a greater emphasis support of public education from k-12. I have been reading many blogs and threads on education for the past few weeks and everyone is saying the same thing I am saying. Public schools need to prepare youths not for todays economy as well as yesterdays which is all but dead, but for that of tomorrow. Teach students how to write codes for software, teach students in high school IT. Teach students topics and skills so that after high school graduation, graduates can go out in the work force instead of going to college and racking up 40-80k of debt in tuition fees, stuff like this hurts NYC and America as a whole in the long run and its not going to get any better if this current system of education persists.
One thing I have noticed is that New Yorkers are not prepared for college but also not prepared for seeking employment in their own front yard except for fast food and retail, if lucky enough public and private sector service jobs. NYC is far too competitive for the average New Yorker these days to garner or not obtain employment because of education. I have always wondered why some employers choose out of towners and other would be Yuppie Transplants over New Yorkers regardless of race or income strata. If education in NYC does not improve, all I can see is another round of continues gentrification for another ten more years of college grads coming from the Midwest scooping up jobs from those noses of native New Yorkers.
Last but least I also put blame on the education system for sidlinign academic achievement for other topics like health that can harm learning such as teen pregnancy and obesity. When worrying about teen pregnancy and obesity for the past decade took away too much attention for educators to confront the real problem in schools which is academic achievement.
Another thing is culture and values. American culture and value system is based on ego, superstar and being the best. This type of attitude and culture is exhibited in our economic capitalist system. Some will be achievers many will not, some will quit and some will cheat to get ahead like those kids who attended those specialized NYC high schools and cheated on exams to get ahead. If Education can become more collective than individualistic maybe then the academic achievement gap will close for all people, but I know for sure Obama is reading this and probably me talking about this is boarder line treason. But hey I really enjoy watching videos of students in Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China, DRP of North Korea and Cuba learning. Call me socialist but these countries have or had or has education down pack.
But at the end of the day, do we really want a city and a nation where anyone and everyone has a college degree, or if everyone and anyone is educated? What about the prison industrial system which thrives of uneducated people who have no guidance in life but crime, or the health industrial complex which depends on welfare recipients to trail medications and other health related schemes. Or even the military industrial complex which needs soldiers who in list into service straight out of high school. Overall NYC, NY State and the entire U.S of A is doomed.
More attention is needed concerning K - 12 education. Many employers don't want to hire people educated in NYC schools for a few basic reasons. Some of it is education, but some jobs do not require that much education and they pay decently. A transplant that works in these types of jobs usually doesn't have more education than a NYer because public schools across the nation suck for the most part.
What the transplant has over the NYer is respect for authority and the appreciation of what NY has to offer. Most schools in the Midwest or south while no better academically won't tolerate bad behavior in school children. Many states have an earlier age than NY's age 16 that a person can drop out of school, and they won't try to reach out to a student to stay in school if the behavior is bad.
Many states DON't give out welfare only food stamps, section 8 if you have children and you can prove you have a job to pay for lights and heat. No state money to help anyone, only federal money is used.
If you see all of this and learn this as a child you will behave in school and know at an early age that you have you have to work for the basics in life. With the behavior in check the student can easily master manners and other things that please the teacher.
These things are later used to please an employer. Making it easier for the employer to train the employee. This saves the employer a lot of wasted time and effort.
Everyone won't be educated ever. It is hard work become educated, it takes a lot of time and effort. Many people as it has been pointed out are born into circumstances that won't allow it.
The military will quickly access if a person has respect for authority and can follow orders.
There will always be a need for prisons so there are no worries on that.
More attention is needed concerning K - 12 education. Many employers don't want to hire people educated in NYC schools for a few basic reasons. Some of it is education, but some jobs do not require that much education and they pay decently. A transplant that works in these types of jobs usually doesn't have more education than a NYer because public schools across the nation suck for the most part.
What the transplant has over the NYer is respect for authority and the appreciation of what NY has to offer. Most schools in the Midwest or south while no better academically won't tolerate bad behavior in school children. Many states have an earlier age than NY's age 16 that a person can drop out of school, and they won't try to reach out to a student to stay in school if the behavior is bad.
Many states DON't give out welfare only food stamps, section 8 if you have children and you can prove you have a job to pay for lights and heat. No state money to help anyone, only federal money is used.
If you see all of this and learn this as a child you will behave in school and know at an early age that you have you have to work for the basics in life. With the behavior in check the student can easily master manners and other things that please the teacher.
These things are later used to please an employer. Making it easier for the employer to train the employee. This saves the employer a lot of wasted time and effort.
Everyone won't be educated ever. It is hard work become educated, it takes a lot of time and effort. Many people as it has been pointed out are born into circumstances that won't allow it.
The military will quickly access if a person has respect for authority and can follow orders.
There will always be a need for prisons so there are no worries on that.
Many states DON't give out welfare only food stamps, section 8 if you have children and you can prove you have a job to pay for lights and heat. No state money to help anyone, only federal money is used.
That's why people are moving here, from North Carolina for example.
What I am chagrined about is that many Black and Latino kids can try to succeed in school and do well, and then they'll come across some idiot who spouts off statistics and facts about how as a race, they are consigned to being at the bottom, that they are far less intelligent than so and so, and so on and so forth. The sad truth is that just like White people as individuals (unfortunately) have to bear the stigma of slavery/racism (whether they deserve it or not), Blacks and Latinos as individuals have to climb this mountain just to break free of the chains of "statistics and facts".
There will always be *******s spouting "statistics and facts". Really, let them spout. Who rrally gives a ****. I'm Black, and I have no mountain to climb, and nothing to prove to anyone.
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When worrying about teen pregnancy and obesity for the past decade took away too much attention for educators to confront the real problem in schools which is academic achievement. 
