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Old 02-13-2013, 08:59 PM
 
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The highly educated people I know who are struggling typically have made ill advised decisions like:

- Buying a house that is too expensive for their own boss to afford
- Buying a car(s) that are more expensive than their boss'
- Spending on vacations that are too expensive for their own boss
- Unrealistic expectations about education and summer camps
- Unrealistic expectations about kid's college
- That new iPhone thingamajing
Some people have personality disorders or mental issues that prevent them from succeeding as well. And of course, addiction can reduce anyone of any educational level to poverty.
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Old 01-26-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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It is happening. Is happening right now.New York City in now call The State of The Homeless.· In January 2013, an average of 50,135 homeless people slept each night in New York City’s municipal shelter system – the first time NYC has recorded more than 50,000 people sleeping each night in municipal shelters...That's was year ago...things had gotten worst. And nobody is talking about the suicide rate in the city.More people now diying of suicide than in car accidents.
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Run this recession for 10 more years and you will see worse.
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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It is not just city residents.
Lots of people are coming here from states with far lower benefits packages.
They are also under the impression that they will, eventually, be awarded an apartment if they present themselves at a New York shelter, enter "the system," and tough it out.
It astonishes me that so many people are wiling to put their children through such sets of experiences.
But they are, and without a second thought.
Others have commented on the utter ridiculousness of a system that mandates - all must be given shelter. With something like that in place, we need to restrict our benefits to the residents we already have.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I was perusing through and came across this article that maybe of interest to all of you? Do you think this will ever happen in NYC?


Georgia’s war against the poor: The southern state is emptying its welfare rolls at the same time that poverty is soaring. - Slate Magazine
I have NO doubt it will not only happen in NYC but throughout the U.S. as well. The lines between 'rich and poor' are growing and if you've noticed, the 'middle class' is almost on its way out. Side bar: if you read the Bible (mainly the book of Revelation), there is NO mention of middle class anywhere, just "rich or poor" so I seriously think it's on the way (SOONER than we realize).

Last edited by yahyes; 01-30-2014 at 01:11 PM.. Reason: Had to make some changes.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I have NO doubt it will not only happen in NYC but throughout the U.S. as well. The lines between 'rich and poor' are growing and if you've noticed, the 'middle class' is almost on its way out. Side bar: if you read the Bible (mainly the book of Revelation), there is NO mention of middle class anywhere, just "rich or poor" so I seriously think it's on the way (SOONER than we realize).
LOL, I think a better explanations is that when Revelations was WRITTEN, there was no concept of something called "the middle class".
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: USA
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^ they should listen to obama before it finally hits the fan out here.


after that happens, it will be curtains if you can't get out of the way.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Thumbs down What benefits are you referring to exactly?

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It is not just city residents.
Lots of people are coming here from states with far lower benefits packages.
They are also under the impression that they will, eventually, be awarded an apartment if they present themselves at a New York shelter, enter "the system," and tough it out.
It astonishes me that so many people are wiling to put their children through such sets of experiences.
But they are, and without a second thought.
Others have commented on the utter ridiculousness of a system that mandates - all must be given shelter. With something like that in place, we need to restrict our benefits to the residents we already have.
The rents here are going through the roof, and the renovations to 'lure' new renters, when the majority of these landlords aren't doing too much of anything is amazing. Take into account the blacks, latinos, etc. that are forced out of where they live, especially here in Bushwick once these greedy landlords see a Caucasian, mainly because they figure they'll now get twice what they're looking for in rent. Or, how about this scenario, landlords who 'illegally' cut up apartments and charge high rents (as much as $1,000 for a "tiny" space, because they're looking to line their pockets), or fix fuse boxes which end up putting tenants lives in danger, etc., etc. Are those the kind of benefits you're referring to?
While I realize this is not the norm, the ones 'hurriedly' fixing up apartments (if you could see the outside of these places, you'd stay out of them, while mostly cosmetic fixes are done as a draw, but these places still don't look 'safe'), and still charging humongous rents are no better but some folks just don't seem to care. Lastly, what about the ones whose building are "long paid for twice over", but don't mind gouging the tenants because they know they'll pay it (while the city looks the other way)?
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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If the OP link is about something bad happening to the poor, then my answer is "hopefully".

NYC needs to stop being a magnet for the dregs of society from all over country. We don't need more unredeemable poor losers. We need a strong middle class. That is achieved by attracting solid real, JOBS, not using government to force part-time kid jobs into paying more and offering sick leave.
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Old 01-30-2014, 03:16 PM
 
Location: USA
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the working poor should at least get the minimum
wage raise so they can continue to afford to pay
their rent. i can't really tell if more businesses
will be built so more people can get jobs tho.
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