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Old 06-07-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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Which areas in the city do you think need a subway line?

Maspeth definitely. It has no subways at all, and to get to the city you need to take another bus first. I'm sure it couldn't hurt that much to extend the M-Line one more stop. Queens Village also needs a subway station (maybe they can extend the F-Line???) and Pomonok too
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:29 PM
 
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The city had grandiose plans for subway expansion throughout the 1920's-1970's, and they were almost always shelved due to the same reason: budget constraints. If it's taken the Second Ave. Subway 70+ years to be built, I doubt we'll see any other lines built in our lifetime.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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I always wondered why the 2 and 5 line stopped in the middle of Brooklyn instead of continue along nostrand ave or at least down flatbush to Kings Plaza.

A subway that ran from the bronx to queens directly would have been nice but it's probably too late for that to happen.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:42 PM
 
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The city had grandiose plans for subway expansion throughout the 1920's-1970's, and they were almost always shelved due to the same reason: budget constraints. If it's taken the Second Ave. Subway 70+ years to be built, I doubt we'll see any other lines built in our lifetime.
Somehow Moscow manages to pump out one or even two new stations per year. But you're right, for some reason subway extensions in NYC are very expensive.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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http://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_index/tag/triboro-rx/

Vote for mayors that support Congestion Pricing (so we can pay for this). Transportation should be a critical issue come this election.

Even LA is building new rapid transit lines, and Chinese cities are smoking us.

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Old 06-07-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Triboro RX | vanshnookenraggen

Vote for mayors that support Congestion Pricing (so we can pay for this). Transportation should be a critical issue come this election.

Even LA is building new rapid transit lines, and Chinese cities are smoking us.
This article was from less than three years ago, so it's funny that his comment on the G train being a little used and unreliable glorified shuttle has become less and less true over such a short span of time. It's a good sign that the TriboroRX or whatever it will be called could be a great idea.

It'd be great if the TriboroRX could be combined with incentivizing heavy development of Broadway Junction as an employment center.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Triboro RX | vanshnookenraggen

Vote for mayors that support Congestion Pricing (so we can pay for this). Transportation should be a critical issue come this election.

Even LA is building new rapid transit lines, and Chinese cities are smoking us.
How would congestion pricing allow us to pay for that? Lets start with the rockaway line to queens blvd.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:39 PM
 
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This article was from less than three years ago, so it's funny that his comment on the G train being a little used and unreliable glorified shuttle has become less and less true over such a short span of time. It's a good sign that the TriboroRX or whatever it will be called could be a great idea.

It'd be great if the TriboroRX could be combined with incentivizing heavy development of Broadway Junction as an employment center.
I agree. We need more commercial centers, mixed use construction scattered about.

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How would congestion pricing allow us to pay for that? Lets start with the rockaway line to queens blvd.
It would pay for the Second Ave Subway. Most critically needed line right now.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Which areas in the city do you think need a subway line?

Maspeth definitely. It has no subways at all, and to get to the city you need to take another bus first. I'm sure it couldn't hurt that much to extend the M-Line one more stop. Queens Village also needs a subway station (maybe they can extend the F-Line???) and Pomonok too
Morrisania and East Tremont. When the Third Avenue Elevated was dismantled in 1973 it was the final blow to a neighborhood already down on its knees. The budqet constrained city knew the concequence. Many parts of the Bronx is on a upswing nowadays but the Third Ave. corridor from Morrisania up to Fordham Road remains somewhat stagnant altough some new low income public housing have been erected. A subway line could wery well provide the much needed adrenaline shot.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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I agree. We need more commercial centers, mixed use construction scattered about.



It would pay for the Second Ave Subway. Most critically needed line right now.
As for the Queens Boulevard Line Connection to the Rockaways, check this link out.

Rockaway Beach rail plan to be backed by Reps. Jeffries, Meeks - Queens Chronicle: South Queens News

It might be possible to use Hurricane Sandy money to do the study and even the construction, of reopening the abandoned portions of the Rockway Beach LIRR to connect it to the Rockaways. This way the Queens Boulevard local would connect all the way to the Rockaways (either the M or the R) providing direct train service from the Rockaways to Northern Queens, without going through Brooklyn or Manhattan. Also providing a quicker commute to midtown Manhattan.

Its sort of like how Sept. 11th money ended up funding the LIRR to Grand Central, the Fulton Street Complex, Second Avenue Subway, and new number one South Ferry station. These Congressman are fighting to get federal money to connect the Queens Boulevard line to the Rockaways by using the abandoned Rockaway Beach tracks, which connect to the A train.
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