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Old 08-22-2013, 08:33 AM
 
Location: New York City
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And what is this supporting evidence?

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Tulane University researcher Howard Mielke published a paper with demographer Sammy Zahran on the correlation of lead and crime at the city level. They studied six US cities that had both good crime data and good lead data going back to the '50s, and they found a good fit in every single one. In fact, Mielke has even studied lead concentrations at the neighborhood level in New Orleans and shared his maps with the local police. "When they overlay them with crime maps," he told me, "they realize they match up."

Put all this together and you have an astonishing body of evidence. We now have studies at the international level, the national level, the state level, the city level, and even the individual level. Groups of children have been followed from the womb to adulthood, and higher childhood blood lead levels are consistently associated with higher adult arrest rates for violent crimes. All of these studies tell the same story: Gasoline lead is responsible for a good share of the rise and fall of violent crime over the past half century.
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So lead is a double whammy: It impairs specific parts of the brain responsible for executive functions and it impairs the communication channels between these parts of the brain. For children like the ones in the Cincinnati study, who were mostly inner-city kids with plenty of strikes against them already, lead exposure was, in Cecil's words, an "additional kick in the gut." And one more thing: Although both sexes are affected by lead, the neurological impact turns out to be greater among boys than girls.

Other recent studies link even minuscule blood lead levels with attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder. Even at concentrations well below those usually considered safe—levels still common today—lead increases the odds of kids developing ADHD.

In other words, as Reyes summarized the evidence in her paper, even moderately high levels of lead exposure are associated with aggressivity, impulsivity, ADHD, and lower IQ. And right there, you've practically defined the profile of a violent young offender.
America's Real Criminal Element: Lead | Mother Jones
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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Though I think any reasonable person would agree that socio-economic factors have a much bigger impact than exposure to exhaust containing lead.
Wouldn't be so sure, New Orleans Lead soil contamination levels by area:



Same areas, this time shown by household income:

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Old 08-22-2013, 08:55 AM
 
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It's probably only newsworthy because it's an interracial couple. I have to say I'm a bit surprised that these incidents don't happen more often. I mean I see more and more interracial couples and you have to think that there are still some people out there that don't like the idea of interracial couples.
Surprised or disappointed?
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:05 AM
 
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Surprised or disappointed?
Surprised in that more verbal altercations don't become physical.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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I would love to see this SOB Nikolaos Katsos spend a couple of years in jail, loose his life savings and end up being homeless and broke. If you are that big of a low life where other people's lives bother you, then you shouldn't be in this country let alone on this planet. Unbelievable how we live amongst these POS's in this day an age.

I really feel bad for that couple. They just want to live their lives happily and aren't bothering anyone. I wish they would post this coward Nikolaos Katsos's address so that people could go to his home and harass him. What a POS.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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I would love to see this SOB Nikolaos Katsos spend a couple of years in jail, loose his life savings and end up being homeless and broke. If you are that big of a low life where other people's lives bother you, then you shouldn't be in this country let alone on this planet. Unbelievable how we live amongst these POS's in this day an age.

I really feel bad for that couple. They just want to live their lives happily and aren't bothering anyone. I wish they would post this coward Nikolaos Katsos's address so that people could go to his home and harass him. What a POS.
That seems rather excessive. Advocating harassment and perhaps even violence isn't the answer.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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That seems rather excessive. Advocating harassment and perhaps even violence isn't the answer.
Funny being that you seem to be giving those low-lifes who attacked the couple a pass. Furthermore, based on your responses in this thread and around this forum, I'd say it is pretty clear you're an advocate of people "sticking with their own kind."
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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Funny being that you seem to be giving those low-lifes who attacked the couple a pass. Furthermore, based on your responses in this thread and around this forum, I'd say it is pretty clear you're an advocate of people "sticking with their own kind."
What pass? We don't know all of the details and we weren't there. All I said was that perhaps this could've been avoided if the male had just moved along and had not provoked the situation. That's just a wise thing to do when people are intoxicated or under the influence.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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The vast majority of people who get intoxicated in bars all over the metro area do not violently attack innocent people. Saying that they were drunk and that it was because Vogel confronted them for dishonoring his wife doesn't hold water nor will it spare those thugs when they face the courts. They will get jail time for sure.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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The vast majority of people who get intoxicated in bars all over the metro area do not violently attack innocent people. Saying that they were drunk and that it was because Vogel confronted them for dishonoring his wife doesn't hold water nor will it spare those thugs when they face the courts. They will get jail time for sure.
Well of course they will, assuming that he didn't strike first. My point was it would've been wise of him to have just walked away.
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