Staff Analyst Trainee Questions (confidential, pass, range)

[maximpnyc]

Originally Posted by speediestevie

I am also wondering about how different levels work.

I noticed that NYS civil service publishes bargained salary grades for various titles. Each grade has a range of minimum and maximum salary figures. Do the SAT, SA, ASA titles have their own salary ranges? I tried digging in the Union's website but can only see current information for Admin SA. Thanks

Er.. sure.

The good source:

https://data.cityofnewyork.us/City-G...nzjr-3966/data

Note, that this appear to have the Incumbent Minimum rates, for example it shows Staff Analyst 1 minimum as $61,686 when the actual minimum for those without 2 years' prior service is currently $53,797.

So there are SAT, SA1, SA2, ASA, AdmSA 1-4 ranges.

There are issues with AdmSA 1, but you probably saw the union info on those.

[speediestevie]

Originally Posted by maximpnyc

Er.. sure.

The good source:

https://data.cityofnewyork.us/City-G...nzjr-3966/data

Note, that this appear to have the Incumbent Minimum rates, for example it shows Staff Analyst 1 minimum as $61,686 when the actual minimum for those without 2 years' prior service is currently $53,797.

So there are SAT, SA1, SA2, ASA, AdmSA 1-4 ranges.

There are issues with AdmSA 1, but you probably saw the union info on those.

Thanks! looks very promising. Do agencies typically give annual increases (performance?) until salary reaches the maximum rate? Probably could make an assumption the range itself is a moving target due to bargaining between the city and the union.

[nyccs]

Originally Posted by speediestevie

Thanks! looks very promising. Do agencies typically give annual increases (performance?) until salary reaches the maximum rate? Probably could make an assumption the range itself is a moving target due to bargaining between the city and the union.

No annual increases based on performance. The union usually gets 1-3% increases annually to balance inflation. You have to apply to different positions/agencies to see salary bumps.

[nyccs]

Originally Posted by m_tamwong

Anyone know how promotions from Staff Analyst level 1 to level 2 work? After department approves, does it go to OMB, DCAS, or both? About how long does it take after the department approves- weeks or months?

Do you have to be working with the city for two years for such a promotion to get final approval?

You have to apply to different departments and agencies to get level bumps. You don't move up levels by staying in the same position unless you are buddie buddies with high level people.

[zxc321]

Originally Posted by nyccs

No annual increases based on performance. The union usually gets 1-3% increases annually to balance inflation. You have to apply to different positions/agencies to see salary bumps.

So how does someone actually get to the maximum salary rate for he title? Once you're in the title, do you have to apply to different openings on the nyc jobs site and negotiate a new salary? I guess the lists would be irrelevant at that point.

And does the maximum rate include longevity pay?

[maximpnyc]

Over the last month, lots of Associate and some Admin lists, as well as:

SAT
NYC POLICE PENSION FUND, 50 requested, 71 certified, 1 vacancy
OATH, 50 requested, 146 certified, 1 vacancy
DEP, 50 requested, 153 certified, 1 vacancy
DCAS, 50 requested, 153 certified, 1 vacancy
OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER, 100 requested, 142 certified, 2 vacancies

SA
DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, 100 requested, 104 certified, 2 vac.
OFFICE OF LABOR RELATIONS, 50 requested, 104 certified, 1 vac.
LAW DEPARTMENT, 50 requested, 141 certified, 1 vac.
DEPARTMENT OF CITYWIDE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, 50 requested, 141 certified, 1 vac.
NYC EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT SYSTEM, 50 requested, 141 certified, 1 vac.
POLICE DEPARTMENT, 250 requested, 264 certified, 5 vac.
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS, 300 requested, 391 certified, 10 vac.
ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN'S SERVICES, 50 requested, 138 certified, 1 vac.
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, 50 requested, 50 certified, 1 vac.

[Sunnyand50]

Originally Posted by maximpnyc

Over the last month, lots of Associate and some Admin lists, as well as:

SAT
NYC POLICE PENSION FUND, 50 requested, 71 certified, 1 vacancy
OATH, 50 requested, 146 certified, 1 vacancy
DEP, 50 requested, 153 certified, 1 vacancy
DCAS, 50 requested, 153 certified, 1 vacancy
OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER, 100 requested, 142 certified, 2 vacancies

SA
DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, 100 requested, 104 certified, 2 vac.
OFFICE OF LABOR RELATIONS, 50 requested, 104 certified, 1 vac.
LAW DEPARTMENT, 50 requested, 141 certified, 1 vac.
DEPARTMENT OF CITYWIDE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, 50 requested, 141 certified, 1 vac.
NYC EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT SYSTEM, 50 requested, 141 certified, 1 vac.
POLICE DEPARTMENT, 250 requested, 264 certified, 5 vac.
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS, 300 requested, 391 certified, 10 vac.
ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN'S SERVICES, 50 requested, 138 certified, 1 vac.
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, 50 requested, 50 certified, 1 vac.

Should I expect more hiring pools soon - or is it totally random?

I attended NYPD a few weeks ago and they got >700 that day. I'm mid-700's.

[NYC Analyst]

Can anyone give a perspective of what it's like at uniformed agencies, like NYPD and FDNY.

[veronica245]

Nypd is like 6 month processing time. You can go to other places while they do it

[NYTT]

Originally Posted by veronica245

Nypd is like 6 month processing time. You can go to other places while they do it

Same with MTA, except it might be a little bit longer than NYPD. Lol my friend waited 2 years for his position.